I'm going to get slaughtered here

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Guinness Guzzler said:
I'll just never understand why he was so down about the prospects at Sunderland tbh. I know we'd been badly ran for years but we'd just been on a cracking run, had some players who had been performing well, I don't know why he came in with the attitude that we were likely ****ed straight away! I'm in a minority that (at the time) didn't mind some of the signings. I had the feeling that a number of players were against him and he likely brought some experienced lads he knew to try and get a bit of a hold over the dressing room. Have a very slight suspicion that allardyce was promising things to some of the players who likely disliked moyes from the off but I suppose we'll never know . Wish he'd walked away though if he hated it so much.
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Because we ended his Manchester United dream by reaching the final and ultimately costing him the sack - it’s that simple

he’s a bitter twisted twat and took revenge
 
Just been thinking in 45 years supporting the lads, apart from Mcmenemy, I would happily sit and have a pint with all the SAFC managers, even the **** ones like wilkinson and cotterill and other dross I can think of but I would not hesitate to pop one right on moyes’s snout and burst it all over that obnoxious face then follow it up with a swift packed mackem smack firmly on the chin
 
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C19RK73 said:
Just been thinking in 45 years supporting the lads, apart from Mcmenemy, I would happily sit and have a pint with all the SAFC managers, even the **** ones like wilkinson and cotterill and other dross I can think of but I would not hesitate to pop one right on moyes’s snout and burst it all over that obnoxious face then follow it up with a swift packed mackem smack firmly on the chin
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I'm afraid I don't condone violence but in this case I'd actually sponsor you.
 
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C19RK73 said:
Just been thinking in 45 years supporting the lads, apart from Mcmenemy, I would happily sit and have a pint with all the SAFC managers, even the **** ones like wilkinson and cotterill and other dross I can think of but I would not hesitate to pop one right on moyes’s snout and burst it all over that obnoxious face then follow it up with a swift packed mackem smack firmly on the chin
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In my time, Wilko is probably the worst but possibly one of the best to have a pint with given the experience and stories he will have. I think I would just decline the call from Moyes.
 
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Oliver's Army said:
In my time, Wilko is probably the worst but possibly one of the best to have a pint with given the experience and stories he will have. I think I would just decline the call from Moyes.
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Wilkinson was a horrid time but like you say he’s ok and certainly wasn’t intentional failure where as with moyes it felt like he wanted us to fail, wanted us to decline and was doing everything deliberately
 
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C19RK73 said:
Wilkinson was a horrid time but like you say he’s ok and certainly wasn’t intentional failure where as with moyes it felt like he wanted us to fail, wanted us to decline and was doing everything deliberately
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Moyes was horrific but I'd have a pint or three with most of the ex gaffers from my time. Keane would be top of the list and Moyes would be bottom, dull as dishwater. Reid , Saxton, mic mac and in my very early days terry butcher will have a few stories.
 
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Oliver's Army said:
Moyes was horrific but I'd have a pint or three with most of the ex gaffers from my time. Keane would be top of the list and Moyes would be bottom, dull as dishwater. Reid , Saxton, mic mac and in my very early days terry butcher will have a few stories.
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Terry Butcher is one of my favourite players of all time, I had trials at Ipswich in the early 80’s but was sadly not good enough and stayed at county level
 
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Guinness Guzzler said:
I'll just never understand why he was so down about the prospects at Sunderland tbh. I know we'd been badly ran for years but we'd just been on a cracking run, had some players who had been performing well, I don't know why he came in with the attitude that we were likely ****ed straight away! I'm in a minority that (at the time) didn't mind some of the signings. I had the feeling that a number of players were against him and he likely brought some experienced lads he knew to try and get a bit of a hold over the dressing room. Have a very slight suspicion that allardyce was promising things to some of the players who likely disliked moyes from the off but I suppose we'll never know . Wish he'd walked away though if he hated it so much.
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He took the job without doing hid due diligence. He didn't know we were in so much debt, nor did he know the owner had decided to stop bank-rolling the club and transfer funds were limited (doesn't explain the whole M'Vila/Ndong thing like) and by the time he'd realised, it was too late to make a dignified withdrawl
 
Oliver's Army said:
Moyes was horrific but I'd have a pint or three with most of the ex gaffers from my time. Keane would be top of the list and Moyes would be bottom, dull as dishwater. Reid , Saxton, mic mac and in my very early days terry butcher will have a few stories.
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Keane doesn't seem a lively conversationalist tbh ...

... I'd go for Di Canio, I reckon he'd be a laugh.
 
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Guinness Guzzler said:
I'll just never understand why he was so down about the prospects at Sunderland tbh. I know we'd been badly ran for years but we'd just been on a cracking run, had some players who had been performing well, I don't know why he came in with the attitude that we were likely ****ed straight away! I'm in a minority that (at the time) didn't mind some of the signings. I had the feeling that a number of players were against him and he likely brought some experienced lads he knew to try and get a bit of a hold over the dressing room. Have a very slight suspicion that allardyce was promising things to some of the players who likely disliked moyes from the off but I suppose we'll never know . Wish he'd walked away though if he hated it so much.
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I think Allardyce may have promised some players certain things that weren't there when he left, let's face it, Sam's got a reputation, but by all accounts he's a good motivator and was thought by most of the players the best man manager they'd had. Sam has his network and contacts for signings and generally gets the best out of players. Moyes didn't. He wasted somewhere close to £40million when it was a lot of money, he miss managed Kirchoff, effectively finishing him despite all the medical evidence showing he needed to be nurtured to keep fit. He bought has beens like Lescott, but let Mvilla slip through his fingers, and to cap that spent nearly twice as much on Ndong than we'd have paid to sign Mvilla. There were rumours fairly early on that he'd clashed with players, even the ones he brought in.
Other than McBarstardley, he's the one manager we've had that I really hate.
 
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TopCat_SMB said:
He took the job without doing hid due diligence. He didn't know we were in so much debt, nor did he know the owner had decided to stop bank-rolling the club and transfer funds were limited (doesn't explain the whole M'Vila/Ndong thing like) and by the time he'd realised, it was too late to make a dignified withdrawl
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No it bloody well wasn't!
 
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