Match Day Thread Vs Man Utd (A)
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why not even a short term loan or a shortish contract for a dedicated CB and putting our established performers back in their proper roles?
The club did really good business in the summer - Thiago and Jota are fantastic additions to this team (and Kostas provides much needed back up to Robbo).
We took a calculated risk by not bringing in a CB. In hindsight, we probably should have done more to bring in one in at the time but we prioritised the attack.
We took a calculated risk by not bringing in a CB. In hindsight, we probably should have done more to bring in one in at the time but we prioritised the attack.
- May 22, 2011
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He’s been arguably best Cb in the league this year. Klopp obviously saw him capable of being 4th choice to step on as abs when needed. The fact we’ve lost 3 centre backs at times this season you can’t predict that. Most teams will have 3/4 senior centre backs that play throughout a season. That’s what we have.
isn't the Chelsea one the only* game we've won when Thiago has played when he gave away a pen - just saying
* I don't count the game against the Villa academy team .
* I don't count the game against the Villa academy team .
- May 22, 2011
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I’m surprised we’ve not tried to do a loan deal for short term options. With euros this summer there must be someone who could do with 6 months playing that can come in and do a job. Even if it’s from a lower prem club potentially.
Eder Militao is the obvious choice for me. Can play CB and RB.
That’s not really the point. No doubt the guy is fabulously (!) talented and could play there. But his absence from the midfield means that area is weakened. As much as we love Milner he is not comparable. And this is made worse by the injury to Henderson. Thiago is great but hasn’t got the defensive abilities in midfield of Fabinho. I read this described as the butterfly effect. Not sure it applies exactly but it gives the idea.
- May 22, 2011
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i don’t disagree. My point was how often do you need to play your 4th cb due to injuries over course of a season? 5 games? 10 games? Klopp probably thought fine with Thiago in, and the options w engage in midfield we can afford to use fab for 5-10 games at CB if needed over course of season if 2 of Gomez vvd and Matip get injured at same time.
Fact 2 were out to season injuries so soon and Matip then got injured for month, you just can’t account for that.
Klopp obviously wanted the forward line up strengthening given we have no depth (origi doesn’t count) where as we had some depth at CB.
we can’t go out and buy 4 starting centre backs, 6 starting wingers like Man City can afford to so we had to prioritise. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but to Klopp he obviously thought the main 3 plus fab would be enough. Maybe he’ll change his mind this summer or maybe he’ll stick with fab as 4th choice
Having only 3 senior centre backs was a risk. It's an even bigger risk when 2 of them are injury prone. That's the issue.
Gomez may not have suffered a season ending injury but chances are he would have picked up niggles throughout the season anyway.
Thiago isn't a defensive midfielder.
I know Klopp doesn't want to play the kid CBs (they are sh!t tbf), but we have no one who can do Fabinhos job in the midfield. We looks so easy to break through without him. Which is his own fault for being so good at the back too.
I would honestly get Klopp to train up Milner to play at the back with Matip, seeing as we won't sign anyone.
A midfield of Fabinho, Thiago and Henderson is what we need
I know Klopp doesn't want to play the kid CBs (they are sh!t tbf), but we have no one who can do Fabinhos job in the midfield. We looks so easy to break through without him. Which is his own fault for being so good at the back too.
I would honestly get Klopp to train up Milner to play at the back with Matip, seeing as we won't sign anyone.
A midfield of Fabinho, Thiago and Henderson is what we need
- May 22, 2011
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which is why I say I’m sure klopp was happy enough to have Fabinho cover 5-10 games a season as 4th choice
Yep, with hindsight, a major mistake. However, who would have predicted losing both VvD and Gomez for the entire season within the first few weeks of the start. It’s still a mistake imo, I think Klopp reckoned he could cope with one or two injuries fit a few weeks and never expected this worse case scenario. That mistake will be compounded if we fail to sign anyone this window.
I agree. I rather we use someone else to partner Matip and move Fab into midfield. And when Matip is out injured, move Fab back into CB.
Of course you can’t anticipate all those injuries. Although one could argue there always a need for contingencies some of these were extreme and at the end of the spectrum. But whilst this is a lot about looking back in hindsight, we do now have an opportunity to correct all this. The whole world, expert and non expert, can see that we need one CB at least. How can it be sensible that to stop a huge leak from a damaged roof from one side of the building, we remove the good side to patch up the damaged one and put on a plastic cover to replace the removed good roof? How does it make any sense? Why can’t we put the damn plastic cover over the damaged roof in the first place?
We now find out what the main priority of FSG are. Always the profits and the dividends?
And we must blame Fabinho. Because if he was **** at CB we would be forced to buy a CB!!
Did you not see Milner (who was filling in at CB at the time) completely miss judge the height of the ball to allow Greenwood time and space to score?
If Fab was **** at CB, we would still have Lovren...and would likely not have signed Jota.
using your roof analogy, if we don’t have the money to fix the roof, we must put a temporary roof cover on and hope that the weather is good
All that said, money is cheap right now, in fact it’s basically free from interest.....I don’t want a stop gap, I want the right player....but what I really want is fir FSG to throw money (cheap money) at this particular problem and deal with the aftermath later. But that’s just me and I do beer stand that there are a myriad of reasons why this may not be possible...not least, whether the quality of roof tile is available when I need it!