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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Sooperhoop, Feb 8, 2020.

  1. bobmid

    bobmid Well-Known Member

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    Very interesting Beth. Thank you. There will be hundreds of thousands of people who will be unable to take this vaccine without further study and trials. My wife being one of them. Neurological diseases are one of medicines mysteries and still to this day, debate arises in conditions such as MS, Lupus and much more. So could some of the most vulnerable in society actually not be able to take a vaccine?
     
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    Excellent, thanks Beth.
     
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    Totally wrong Didley. The latest outbreaks are in NSW and Victoria, not QLD hence QLD once again closing the borders to ppl from certain hotspot areas, perhaps the gentleman you refer to is from a hotspot or you are quoting old news from months ago. EVERY traveller from overseas MUST go into mandatory Hotel quarantine for 14 days at their own expense.
     
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    Same here
    Just close the borders and let no one in
     
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    totally agree Kiwi, just read USA has more cases now that the entire population of Qld, NSW and Vic combined (over 20 million), absolute morons over there and UK over 50000 new cases yesterday
     
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    Once again we are the victims of buffoons or liars. None of the people in government would survive long if they were employed in the real world.
     
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    Think it's a mixture of both. In all fairness to Johnson, when he filled the cabinet with nodding yes people with little to no experience, he didnt see this pandemic coming. Or maybe he did and wasnt arsed. That education secretary fella is unbelievably poor.
     
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    Special moronic leaders for ya!
     
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    Indeed mate.
     
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    An excellent explanation thanks Beth.
     
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    Funny you should say that Bobmid...when I started as. Neuroimmunolgist 40 years ago...I was told neurology was a speciality in which you don't normally cure but simply care and treat the symptoms. It has changed but not a lot...we cannot cure MND, or MS or Parkinson, we treat.

    So to answer your question...the advice to patients with neurological patients...is talk to your doctor. Many neurologicsl disorders the patient are at the top of the vaccination list but care is taken with patients who has a neurology diseases caused by autoimmunity (where the body turns on itself like lupus, myasthenia, rhematoid arthritis). They are told to have a vaccination that does not involved an attenuated virus......at the moment that is not an issue with what we have available.
    But all patients are different...so you must speak to your own consultant.
    If you want I can pm you Bobmid the information that the we are sending out to our patients..
     
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    Yes please do that would be very much appreciated.
    A lot of treatments for MS (infact nearly all) are specifically aimed at symptoms of the disease rather than general treatment as all suffer differently and at different stages. The majority suppress the immune system to (as you say) stop it attacking itself. How can the vaccine possibly work on someone who's immune system is suppressed or someones immune system that basically attacks itself? Thanks Beth
     
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    It’s pretty shocking to see how the numbers per 100k have shot up in just a few weeks.
    Areas of Essex over 1k; outer suburbs of London 600+; even our own area of Dorset has tripled to 150+ and awaiting the school return and new variant impact to make that shoot up further.
    The bods at the top better be working 24/7 to plan that roll-out of the vaccine efficiently.
    It will be interesting to see what the strategy will be. So many different options of attack after frontline/most at risk is dealt with.
     
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    Do Doctors not get classed as working in the real world?
     
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    Is there a doctor in this mob? I hope it’s Alok Sharma.
     
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