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Warm Pouch said:
We are at home against a side who will finish low down. Regardless of availability we should be going for it, and we certainly had enough available last night to be having a go at other poor sides. Its a moot point though, because Brucey will be playing stay in the game again.
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I think we're a poor side even at full strength... He's got no qualify in that group whatsoever attacking wise other than Wilson and tbh no quality anywhere on on the sqaud that's currently available.. Feddy and Clark are solid, but cm and the fullbacks are dreadful, so if he has a go the last 15 mins of last night will be repeated for the full 90 vs Fulham who play much better football than us and are now performing well.... If we have a full strength side we'd probably be OK, but as things are this another loss more than likley.... Hope I'm wrong and I'd take a point now.
 
G4rdToonArmy said:
It's a strange one but I actually think it's almost the opposite. Bruce is so basic he uses a throw back to a 1990's 442 or Rafas 5-4-1 that these players know well. I think the problem is he isn't being weird enough. Football moves on incredibly quickly, quicker than most realise. My concern is that Bruce is doing what he knows and that is ancient history in football terms. It's strange that Hodgson at Palace seems more up with the times than Brucey and can play a high pressing game when I'd suggest we have a better front 4 than Palace.
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Hodgson has operated at a far higher level he's not great but Bruce's really only ever managed at crap clubs including nufc which sadly is a crap club and it's something it will continue to be under Ashley
 
captain wrong said:
I think we're a poor side even at full strength... He's got no qualify in that group whatsoever attacking wise other than Wilson and tbh no quality anywhere on on the sqaud that's currently available.. Feddy and Clark are solid, but cm and the fullbacks are dreadful, so if he has a go the last 15 mins of last night will be repeated for the full 90 vs Fulham who play much better football than us and are now performing well.... If we have a full strength side we'd probably be OK, but as things are this another loss more than likley.... Hope I'm wrong and I'd take a point now.
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I think that's just a battering down of your expectations personally which is understandable. As a squad we are clearly competitive with the likes of Fulham etc. Hence a **** hawk like Bruce can keep us up consistently. Fair enough if we had the 20th best squad, but we don't. I don't expect us to be gung ho, but I'd hope a manager will look to squeeze the oppo and be in control of the game. Otherwise you might as well not bother being in the league.
 
Warm Pouch said:
I think that's just a battering down of your expectations personally which is understandable. As a squad we are clearly competitive with the likes of Fulham etc. Hence a **** hawk like Bruce can keep us up consistently. Fair enough if we had the 20th best squad, but we don't. I don't expect us to be gung ho, but I'd hope a manager will look to squeeze the oppo and be in control of the game. Otherwise you might as well not bother being in the league.
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I think most fans think their players are better than they're.. I personally look at the stats prior make a judgement based on them and then simply just watch them play and after a reasonable amount of games if they've been **** I conclude they're just that...... I can't recall this system ever being wrong.. Numbers tend not to lie imo
 
captain wrong said:
I think most fans think their players are better than they're.. I personally look at the stats prior make a judgement based on them and then simply just watch them play and after a reasonable amount of games if they've been **** I conclude they're just that...... I can't recall this system ever being wrong.. Numbers tend not to lie imo
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They don't and Fulham have the 4th lowest number of points, and the 4th worst goal difference. So they are ****ter than us and we should be attacking them. We won't.
 
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Warm Pouch said:
They don't and Fulham have the 4th lowest number of points, and the 4th worst goal difference. So they are ****ter than us and we should be attacking them. We won't.
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This is incredibly short sighted... They've really started finding their feet.. Im not sure if you've noticed, but we struggle against sides that can pass and move Fulham can play a bit... I'm not ruling out a Newcastle win, but with the impact of covid, our performances, recent results and Bruce's selections I'd have no issue with defending and nicking the point... Like I say its a better result for us than them, so countering seems the right approach.. I think if he throws caution to the wind with that group of offensive players and our ****e fullbacks and cms we'd get taken apart just as we did the last 15 yesterday...

You seem to think we've got good players, but Fulham have better players in some areas that's for sure
 
captain wrong said:
This is incredibly short sighted... They've really started finding their feet.. Im not sure if you've noticed, but we struggle against sides that can pass and move Fulham can play a bit... I'm not ruling out a Newcastle win, but with the impact of covid, our performances, recent results and Bruce's selections I'd have no issue with defending and nicking the point... Like I say its a better result for us than them, so countering seems the right approach.. I think if he throws caution to the wind with that group of offensive players and our ****e fullbacks and cms we'd get taken apart just as we did the last 15 yesterday...

You seem to think we've got good players, but Fulham have better players in some areas that's for sure
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They have better players in some areas, and we have better players in others. Overall we have a better squad in my opinion. I reckon Parker is a better manager but he doesn't look a world beater so far and I don't have a lot to go on.

I certainly do think we should be going for it. I certainly think there is enough in this squad to do that.

Do I think we should? That would require me to have faith that the current manager can set up a team to dominate the opposition. I don't have that faith and it won't change before the game. The problem isn't the squad (although it needs improvement), in a game like this its simply a lack of ability on the managers part.

I've clearly noted earlier I think we will lose because of their form and style of football so those points are not really in dispute.
 
Warm Pouch said:
They have better players in some areas, and we have better players in others. Overall we have a better squad in my opinion. I reckon Parker is a better manager but he doesn't look a world beater so far and I don't have a lot to go on.

I certainly do think we should be going for it. I certainly think there is enough in this squad to do that.

Great plan

Do I think we should? That would require me to have faith that the current manager can set up a team to dominate the opposition. I don't have that faith and it won't change before the game. The problem isn't the squad (although it needs improvement), in a game like this its simply a lack of ability on the managers part.

I've clearly noted earlier I think we will lose because of their form and style of football so those points are not really in dispute.
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So you're saying you think we should have go, but that you think we will lose..



Mines try not to get beat and counter them. Because they're desperate and have to commit
 
captain wrong said:
So you're saying you think we should have go, but that you think we will lose..



Mines try not to get beat and counter them. Because they're desperate and have to commit
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You're really struggling today aren't you? Get some muesli for ****s sake.

I think we have enough in the squad that we should be having a right go at Fulham.

Sadly I think we have a **** manager who wouldn't know how to have a go at them and thus we'd lose if we did. I also think we will likely lose doing it the only way he knows how also. That is staying in the game.

Unfortunately we have a **** manager. Just the way it is.
 
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Warm Pouch said:
You're really struggling today aren't you? Get some muesli for ****s sake.

I think we have enough in the squad that we should be having a right go at Fulham.

Sadly I think we have a **** manager who wouldn't know how to have a go at them and thus we'd lose if we did. I also think we will likely lose doing it the only way he knows how also. That is staying in the game.

Unfortunately we have a **** manager. Just the way it is.
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I've switched to gruel with almonds and pecans.. I also add 10g of zero iso protein from biotech usa after taking a tea spoon of apple cider vinegar, some vitamin b12, d3, beta carotene and omega 3...
 
Think we will win this, not comfortably because we don't do that. They are extremely open. They try and play it round the back and make a lot of stupid mistakes. Reckon 3-1 but with the 3rd right at the end, when they are trying to force an equalizer.
 
JakartaToon said:
Think we will win this, not comfortably because we don't do that. They are extremely open. They try and play it round the back and make a lot of stupid mistakes. Reckon 3-1 but with the 3rd right at the end, when they are trying to force an equalizer.
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We will just let them...
 
captain wrong said:
I've switched to gruel with almonds and pecans.. I also add 10g of zero iso protein from biotech usa after taking a tea spoon of apple cider vinegar, some vitamin b12, d3, beta carotene and omega 3...
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I had an indians last night. It was delicious. Nawabi Khana with Chicken Tikka. The king of curries.
 
Still no max or Manquillo

It'll be much the same **** as Wednesday this one.

It's going to be a dreadful month or 2
 
captain wrong said:
Hodgson has operated at a far higher level he's not great but Bruce's really only ever managed at crap clubs including nufc which sadly is a crap club and it's something it will continue to be under Ashley
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Hodgson is a very intelligent manager and has had success throughout his career.

A poor spell with Liverpool and a disappointing England stint is what it is.

Overall Hodgson has had a terrific career.
 
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