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Boris...

  • should completely lock us down immediately and fook up all our Christmas'

    Votes: 3 12.5%

  • let the bodies stack high

    Votes: 13 54.2%

  • lock us down from the 29th to fook up Treble's plans

    Votes: 8 33.3%
  • Total voters
    24
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Tel said:
Just read the article, doesn’t seem as dodgy as some of the other contracts awarded to politician’s mates.

The pressure to deliver testing kits back in March through the summer was intense, so parts, or in some cases all of the OJEU/PCR2015 process were swerved.

These processes if followed correctly often take 6 months+ to get through prequal, specification and tender via the advertisements, so there’s no way the process was ever going to take the normal route.

The governance actually allows for such things to happen in times of emergency, so no amount of public rage makes it illegal either way.
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There’s a world of difference between emergency procurement and a complete abandonment of even the most cursory checks & handing contracts worth £100m+ to newly formed businesses with a net worth of £100, or businesses with absolutely zero experience of supplying PPE, because they’re mates or family members of MP’s or cabinet members.

We’ll find out about the legality of it when the publicly funded prosecutions get to court. Some of the stories of the colossal wasting of public funds are horrendous. £100’s of £M of product either not delivered or supplied wrong, even £M’s worth supplied out of date, some with dates deliberately falsified. Nothing to see here though obvs.
 
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Tobes said:
There’s a world of difference between emergency procurement and a complete abandonment of even the most cursory checks & handing contracts worth £100m+ to newly formed businesses with a net worth of £100, or businesses with absolutely zero experience of supplying PPE, because they’re mates or family members of MP’s or cabinet members.

We’ll find out about the legality of it when the publicly funded prosecutions get to court. Some of the stories of the colossal wasting of public funds are horrendous. £100’s of £M of product either not delivered or supplied wrong, even £M’s worth supplied out of date, some with dates deliberately falsified. Nothing to see here though obvs.
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Dyson said they could alter their mechanical production to produce ventilators. From what I read, this guy has just done the same, albeit on a smaller scale. Producing vials in the U.K. offers much less risk in supply chain operations, as opposed to procuring from overseas in an unstable global logistics climate.

PCR isn’t applicable in times of economic emergency, so direct award is permissible if the purchasing contractor can justify existing framework agreements couldn’t deliver part or whole orders. There’s no grey area, it’s absolutely cut and dry.

I’d imagine the tender process undertaken was non-competitive so there doesn’t even have to be justification against VFM or any other traditional criteria.

Not saying I disagree that they’ve been snide like, just saying with this one it looks highly likely to be above board.
 
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Tel said:
Dyson said they could alter their mechanical production to produce ventilators. From what I read, this guy has just done the same, albeit on a smaller scale. Producing vials in the U.K. offers much less risk in supply chain operations, as opposed to procuring from overseas in an unstable global logistics climate.

PCR isn’t applicable in times of economic emergency, so direct award is permissible if the purchasing contractor can justify existing framework agreements couldn’t deliver part or whole orders. There’s no grey area, it’s absolutely cut and dry.

I’d imagine the tender process undertaken was non-competitive so there doesn’t even have to be justification against VFM or any other traditional criteria.

Not saying I disagree that they’ve been snide like, just saying with this one it looks highly likely to be above board.
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In fairness that one is actually a sub contractor and not a directly awarded Govt contract, and may well be fine.

The Good Law Project are pursuing some of the huge directly awarded contracts that stink to high heaven. They’ve had permission to proceed on 4/5 so far, of the dozen they’ve investigated & they expect to get permission to proceed on the remainder in the coming weeks. Once those get to court it’ll be a ****show.
 
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Tobes said:
In fairness that one is actually a sub contractor and not a directly awarded Govt contract, and may well be fine.

The Good Law Project are pursuing some of the huge directly awarded contracts that stink to high heaven. They’ve had permission to proceed on 4/5 so far, of the dozen they’ve investigated & they expect to get permission to proceed on the remainder in the coming weeks. Once those get to court it’ll be a ****show.
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Yeah it becomes allowable if the existing contract authority for medical/PPE (The NHS presumably) is put out of the picture and the Gov’t procure directly, which could get them into trouble especially if contracts are renewed, but I’d imagine the Gov’t would just claim ‘unprecedented’ etc etc.

They really need brought to account for the waste though, it’s a massive mess.
 
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When we transition to OJUK from OJEU, it wouldn’t surprise me to see wholesale changes to governance to help things like this become more normal.
 
This vaccine stuff is happening much quicker than I expected. Potentially some people getting it next week I believe.
 
Just had a good mate of mine on. His mum lives in sheltered housing and he’s known for a while that her days were numbered and she entered end of life care last week. But they had carers for her and he was with her as much as he could be. He’s found out today she’s test positive for COVID and she’s now going to die alone at some point in the next week, and he can’t be with her. He’s heartbroken :(

This year is a ****ing minger.
 
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Tobes said:
Just had a good mate of mine on. His mum lives in sheltered housing and he’s known for a while that her days were numbered and she entered end of life care last week. But they had carers for her and he was with her as much as he could be. He’s found out today she’s test positive for COVID and she’s now going to die alone at some point in the next week, and he can’t be with her. He’s heartbroken :(

This year is a ****ing minger.
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The whimiscal end of year review shows are going to be in short supply this year.
 
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