The Plan

[Gone For A Walk]

Look at the clubs propping up the PL

Teams who have gone up from the Championship with ease. To what?

Getting dumped on each week and cheated by the refs/VAR

Villa, Wolves, Leeds and Brighton are doing ok.
Burnley have had a great run at it, and have assets to show should they drop out this season.
West Brom have done ok over the years.
Sheff Utd 1 season wonders.
Surely we have to dare to dream again? To see our club be the very best it can be.
It's a big ask, but who knows.

 

[Trumpton Tiger.]

I agree, though not on Clucas. I thought that represented very good value. We got him from League One for relative peanuts and sold him on for a ridiculous profit.

And Tom Ince, we doubled our money on him in a very short period of time.

 

[tigerscanada]

we have three ex players who are presently team captains in the Prem - Cooper - given away - Cairney, given away and Maguire. as good as given away

And the captain of the Scottish national team as well as being a star for the European & English Premier league champs. Not a bad hand to hold ?

They proved themselves once they arrived at their new clubs. Done very well, all of them.Why would the money men take a great financial risk on 4 players who were not in Messi's or Ronaldo's proven class ? Ask for more and they may not have been transferred.
Prudent trading on both ends of each deal.

 

[Steven Toast]

My opinion is nothing at all to do with the owners, and everything to do with the prem.

I agree with you. For me, the enjoyment came from seeing a team performing well and giving the fans something to cheer for. Being in the Premier League felt a lot less satisfying for me because the pressure on the lads came from so many different angles. In that last season, there were so many factors as to why we were going to struggle (which makes our start all the more impressive), but a lot of media outlets and pundits didn't really account for that. We were never going to win the PL so I ask myself, is finishing 16th/17th a prize worth singing about as a fan? Sure, it makes the club money, but what does it do for the fans? Nothing. I'd rather be challenging in the Championship or League One for a title than being PL also-rans every year.

Now we are off the radar, it feels more enjoyable again. We aren't being linked with loads of names anymore, we are just doing our own thing and that feels much, much better.

 

[John Ex Aberdeen now E.R.]

The plan
Develop our own players
Try and unearth gems that other clubs let go
Be strict on wages
Keep with a young coach and believe in him
Sell players at a profit
the Plan will struggle if we get back in the championship and want to push on for the PL. Adam Pearson acknowledged he wouldn’t do it when he was in charge
Duffen went gung ho for it and saddled us with debt.
The Allams speculated and it paid off with Sir Steven Bruce but look at the rewards he brought in terms of sell on value for players
Ehab was too stupid or more likely jealous to see it.
So we shall see if we get back there

it’s whether the financial climate with covid means some of these clubs are actually brought to book for running up huge debts and getting properly penalised for it

I think that is a pretty fair assessment.

 

[John Ex Aberdeen now E.R.]

I'm of the same opinion. I've really enjoyed most games this season, not just because of a winning run, I'm expecting at least a top six finish. Not wanting to spoil things but the big problem would be rebuilding if they make it to the Championship. This team is built to get out of this division, fair enough, this is their level - but competing at the top of the Championship would take a major investment from new owners. Buying cheap, selling big is an easy way to make money when you have absolutely no interest in football. New owners - where are you? - give us a sign?

Ehab probably got his idea from Polo, what he is doing with players is very similar to what you do in a stud farm with horses. You buy them young, train and develop them and sell them, hopefully for a profit

I just hope he doesn't go to the lengths to check their bloodline like is done with horses.

 

[originallambrettaman]

You must log in or register to see images

That's who we lost post relegation under Slutsky. I can't remember what date the Supermarket closed. But yeah, Hernandez, Dawson, Clark, Dio, McGregor, Tymon and Meyler all left when we probably could have squeezed a bit out of them.

Did we ever find out what the insurance payment was on Ryan Mason? Because we spunked £13m there. Unforeseen circumstances of course, but hopefully we got some of that back.

We got a £1m insurance payout on Mason.

 

[Gone For A Walk]

I agree with you. For me, the enjoyment came from seeing a team performing well and giving the fans something to cheer for. Being in the Premier League felt a lot less satisfying for me because the pressure on the lads came from so many different angles. In that last season, there were so many factors as to why we were going to struggle (which makes our start all the more impressive), but a lot of media outlets and pundits didn't really account for that. We were never going to win the PL so I ask myself, is finishing 16th/17th a prize worth singing about as a fan? Sure, it makes the club money, but what does it do for the fans? Nothing. I'd rather be challenging in the Championship or League One for a title than being PL also-rans every year.

Now we are off the radar, it feels more enjoyable again. We aren't being linked with loads of names anymore, we are just doing our own thing and that feels much, much better.

Why not aspire to be top end of Championship / (realistically) bottom half of PL?
And to 'do it properly'. Use the money to build an infrastructure that lasts, and maybe one day establish ourselves as a mid-table PL club?
Sorry but I don't want to settle for seeing my club challenging for a L1 title.

 

[Chazz Rheinhold]

I agree with you. For me, the enjoyment came from seeing a team performing well and giving the fans something to cheer for. Being in the Premier League felt a lot less satisfying for me because the pressure on the lads came from so many different angles. In that last season, there were so many factors as to why we were going to struggle (which makes our start all the more impressive), but a lot of media outlets and pundits didn't really account for that. We were never going to win the PL so I ask myself, is finishing 16th/17th a prize worth singing about as a fan? Sure, it makes the club money, but what does it do for the fans? Nothing. I'd rather be challenging in the Championship or League One for a title than being PL also-rans every year.

Now we are off the radar, it feels more enjoyable again. We aren't being linked with loads of names anymore, we are just doing our own thing and that feels much, much better.

I want my club to play at the highest level possible
And that means the PL

 

[The Omega Man]

I always want Hull City to win, that means every game in every competition.

 

[DMD]

I want my club to play at the highest level possible
And that means the PL

I always want Hull City to win, that means every game in every competition.

I don't disagree with either of you, but I just find the reward a poisoned chalice. Unless there's a total rehash of the Prem, which isn't going to happen, it's just something I'll have to live with. In the meantime, I can enjoy the here and now.

 

[Stockholm Tiger]

I thought the plan was to get to the transfer window and then sell anyone we get an offer for........

 

[The Omega Man]

I don't disagree with either of you, but I just find the reward a poisoned chalice. Unless there's a total rehash of the Prem, which isn't going to happen, it's just something I'll have to live with. In the meantime, I can enjoy the here and now.

I would prefer us to be a yoyo club in the Championship/Premier League than League 1/Championship.

That said, League One football is not a disappointment, so far.

 

[AlRawdah]

I found our time in the Premier League immensely frustrating at times, elating at others. Some of those frustrations were down to how the PL is configured, others were down to the self-harm inflicted by our owners (plural, Bartlett/Duffen and Allam).

That said, some of my greatest City memories came in the PL (Arsenal 2008, Cardiff 2014, Swansea 2016, Liverpool 2017).

In summary, I want Hull City to alternate between winning the Championship play off final in odd numbered years, then finishing tenth in the PL and being relegated for pro-supporter irregularities in even numbered years!

 

[Plum]

I find the football itself almost as enjoyable to watch in whatever league we're in. What makes the higher leagues a better experience is the bigger crowds, generating a better atmosphere. Not just now obvs...

 

[TonyFinnegan'sCocaineHell]

Nah, you're seeing it already, several PL clubs are already the starting gate for a breakaway, the football landscape is ripe for change, and that means the end of the PL as we currently know it.

For now, it's going to be better to be a Championship/L1 side with a nucleus of homegrown young players and a smattering of experience, which is what we currently have. Besides, it's still a position from which we can laugh at Scunthorpe and Grimsby.

 

[Phinius T Bookbinder]

I used to enjoy turning up to the KC for our annual turning over of Liverpool...

 

[cheshireles]

I used to enjoy turning up to the KC for our annual turning over of Liverpool...

Whatever the plan was, or is, Terry accepted the gig and screwed up big time, albeit he wasn't helped by Ehab which comes as a surprise to no one!

At face value in recent seasons since 2008 we've had some absolutely brilliant days when we surpassed what I ever thought we may achieve as a club. Seeing City play in The Prem, the promotions, watching City in China, fantastic memories!

That said what have to show now for all the revenue we secured in those heady days, not a lot. That for me is gross mismanagement! We are very much back almost to the days which began just before we moved to The KC when Peter Taylor was in charge, a young team with some experience on the verge of positive days ahead on the pitch. Ehab has achieved financial stability, but at what cost? As for Terry, until he rights his wrongs of last season and gets us back into the Championship, I'm still not convinced.

Whatever this season holds, let's hope we can get back in the stadium soon and support the lads!

 

[Phinius T Bookbinder]

Whatever the plan was, or is, Terry accepted the gig and screwed up big time, albeit he wasn't helped by Ehab which comes as a surprise to no one!

At face value in recent seasons since 2008 we've had some absolutely brilliant days when we surpassed what I ever thought we may achieve as a club. Seeing City play in The Prem, the promotions, watching City in China, fantastic memories!

That said what have to show now for all the revenue we secured in those heady days, not a lot. That for me is gross mismanagement! We are very much back almost to the days which began just before we moved to The KC when Peter Taylor was in charge, a young team with some experience on the verge of positive days ahead on the pitch. Ehab has achieved financial stability, but at what cost? As for Terry, until he rights his wrongs of last season and gets us back into the Championship, I'm still not convinced.

Whatever this season holds, let's hope we can get back in the stadium soon and support the lads!

Says it all really

 

[Mckechnie Orange]

I don't agree, that performance post lockdown was disgusting. I've seen a lot of relegations, never one as gutless as that. McCann just kept referring to the plan. I was that disappointed, I gave up my membership. It wasn't the relegation, it was the lack of bottle, the not offering extensions to your captain and vice captain when in crisis, etc,

Honeyman alluded to stuff behind the scenes pre-match that won't have helped and probably contributed to gutless form post lockdown, but I agree McCann had enough in the squad and points already on board from January to March to eek out survival.

He clearly isn't blameless but there's clearly been behind the scenes stuff we're only partially aware of.

He did very little wrong the first half of last season and done very little wrong so far this season, so it's reasonable to assume there's stuff went on behind closed doors.