I don't know SM. It's different this time. Schools are open and restrictions are not as bad. However, I see tough times ahead.
Nat King Cole!!!! Class SM. Every Christmas his Album goes on and plays every day in our household. Top man!
Until he got to that bit, despite the very poor quality of the communication, I was kind of ‘ok, this stinks, but I get it, they are terrified of the NHS collapsing and must think it’s a real possibility, despite the confidence intervals (ask Beth) on those projections looking huge’. Then he chucks in a shiny new thing, thinking that we’ll forget that all of the other shiny new things we have been promised have delivered nothing. There is no learning happening here. It’s a nightmare situation, and would be for any government. I genuinely believe, even with the cock ups, the let’s give our mates a contract idiocy, the stupid over promising etc etc that Johnson is trying to balance an incredibly difficult set of challenges and do the best for the country. But for ****’s sake they do hamstring themselves by repeating the same mistakes endlessly. And somebody in Conservative Central Office or the Cabinet Office or wherever step in and help them with the communications. All those slides were more about convincing themsleves and a few anally retentive pedants that drastic action is needed. They could have just said, forcefully and clearly, ‘we expect 2000 deaths a day by December and hospitals to be in a state of collapse. All of the projections and figures are on this website. We have to do something”.
Let's keep everyone safe by limiting contact during this latest lockdown. Wait! Why is UK PLC still open for foreigners to come here from highly infectious European and US locations? Shutdown the airports, ferry ports, international rail services except for returning British Citizens. We have learnt nothing from round one, just look at the Australian and New Zealand approach. There is no discernible impact from restricting tourists and visitors to the UK.
Pretty much the same lockdown as we have here....we're 1 week in to a 6 week lockdown, schools are open assuming teachers don't go on strike, take aways open, work from home where possible.....care homes closed to visitors...I can only see my aged mother through a window, conversation almost impossible... Tourists still coming in number of UK registered cars here at the moment is ridiculous, stay at fecking home it's not rocket science.... Wine....
That's what I said the other day in response to Sb. We should close the borders or bloody make sure people don't just turn and spread it. Australia has got it right. I said before it was a mistake while we were in lockdown everyday planes were coming in from China/US/Europe.
Ninj, only quoting your post because you asked about China. Generally everything is back to normal here in China, the same for Wuhan as well. There have been strict restrictions on anyone entering China, and until recently only Chinese nationals have been allowed into the country. Those restrictions have been eased recently and anyone with a legitimate reason (ie work) can come into the country. Before getting on a flight passengers must pass a health check and this has to be verified by the Chinese embassy in their own country. Also, only nationals of the country the plane is flying from are permitted onto the plane (only US residents permitted on a plane from the USA,etc), on arriving in China those passengers must then undergo a compulsory 14 day quarantine at a designated hotel close to the airport. Despite these restrictions a few cases have come into the country, recently the city of Qingdao, tested the entire city in 5 days after about 12 positive cases appearred at one of the city's hospitals. The fact that the entire city of 9 million people was tested so quickly shows how seriously it is being taken here. closer to where I live in Jiangxi province, one positive case was found in a small city about 100km from me. Nothing has changed in the city I work in, but this weekend I went back to my wife's home city about 50km from the city with the one positive case and about 50% of the population there are wearing facemasks. This is voluntary and no government directive was given. Whenever I travel on public transport (every Friday and Sunday) facemasks are compulsory, before you are allowed on board. Not directed at you Ninj, but had the UK and other countries taken this more seriously then a second lockdown could easily have been avoided. Apologies for the long post.
How is it reported there? Not as being of Chinese origin or do you mean not man-made as some people allege here? I’m rather surprised and gutted our approach of hoping it would go away and doing nothing failed so miserably compared to Taiwan, for example.
Good post and interesting to hear the perspective of someone who is in China. As I have mentioned before, I was surprised when I went back to the UK in summer and saw how relaxed lots of the people were being...no face masks, no social distancing, lots of big groups. However, I also said France were taking it much more seriously, and people here were, and are, being a lot more cautious...and we are now back in lockdown.
Wet market bat eating ****ers Apparently God knows what happens the next time there's a pork shortage in china
It is totally refuted as being man-made by China. Even western scientists have confirmed that as fact. Despite that some people still allege it was created in a lab in Wuhan. My main concern for family back in the UK is the way this has been approached from the first indications of the serious threat of the disease coming out of China. Why did so many western governments not take it seriously until it became a serious problem in each of their own countries, almost an atitude of it wont happen here.
Johnson had to sort his divorce out to be fair and he plays tennis with oligarchs on a Tuesday so there wasn’t time to get round to it sadly.
and he doesn't work weekends, yesterday giving that speech must have been very difficult for him as he had to give up his free time.
