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I think we have to be at least a decade behind the progress of American sports, such as the ones you've listed. Then that financial progress (1992) moves to and influences the introduction of the Premier League. I've often joked over the new Spurs stadium build, and made comments such as selling their soul to NFL. But aside from the banter, it's not just Tottenham but the whole of English and Welsh football, it's become dominated by a power struggle. I don't believe even with this change of heart in dropping their obscene plans, that any small footsteps have been made in the right direction. I think it will take the TV broadcasters to enforce that. Eventually the bubble has to burst, when it does the Premier League clubs will have to start introducing caps in the same way the Americans have. I suppose my question to all this, who will be the modern day Jimmy Hill to see this one over the line. The biggest hurdle for the broadcasters is about to come to the table, will UK subscribers pay for PPV, in the same way the Americans do... https://www.statista.com/outlook/205/109/pay-per-view--tvod-/united-states




what will happen is that the TV money will hit a ceiling and then clubs will realise that the wages keep going up and the income has stopped growing. Then the clubs will get together and agree on spending limits - they won’t agree wage caps per player but per team with financial consequences for exceeding it. In baseball it’s called a wealth tax (called competitive balance tax) since 1997 and since then the league is more open.
Also the teams pool part of their revenue and it is then redistributed amongst all the teams, so that all income is equal !
 
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Government I believe have already placed a shot across the bow of the PremierSHIP, more or less get your house in order or will do it for you.

This.

They've allowed the premier league complete self governance in the past, but have said that if they don't sort their **** out, then they will bring in fan representation at board level. That SHOULD be happening anyway imo. And should be a model that's replicated across all industries (but that's another argument).

The basic premise that fans should have a say and a vote on what happens in the game, is long overdue.
 
what will happen is that the TV money will hit a ceiling and then clubs will realise that the wages keep going up and the income has stopped growing. Then the clubs will get together and agree on spending limits - they won’t agree wage caps per player but per team with financial consequences for exceeding it. In baseball it’s called a wealth tax (called competitive balance tax) since 1997 and since then the league is more open.
Also the teams pool part of their revenue and it is then redistributed amongst all the teams, so that all income is equal !
Wage capping is hindering our club, big time. We are stuck in league one generating way more revenue than anybody else but can't pay wages higher than anybody else regardless of the amount of revenue we bring in due to our huge support. I don't see how it's fair that we can't outspend the likes of Fleetwood Town.
 
what will happen is that the TV money will hit a ceiling and then clubs will realise that the wages keep going up and the income has stopped growing. Then the clubs will get together and agree on spending limits - they won’t agree wage caps per player but per team with financial consequences for exceeding it. In baseball it’s called a wealth tax (called competitive balance tax) since 1997 and since then the league is more open.
Also the teams pool part of their revenue and it is then redistributed amongst all the teams, so that all income is equal !

I'm in favour of wage caps and I'd also like to see some kind of draft system like they have in NFL where the bottom placed teams get first pick on the best younger players. I've no idea how the logistics of this would work, as you'd need it to be at least European wide. You'd also get the rich clubs complaining about the practices breaking EU employment and contract laws etc. But it's clear that the unfettered capitalism approach to football has simply seen the rich clubs get richer and the smaller clubs going to the wall.
 
Wage capping is hindering our club, big time. We are stuck in league one generating way more revenue than anybody else but can't pay wages higher than anybody else regardless of the amount of revenue we bring in due to our huge support. I don't see how it's fair that we can't outspend the likes of Fleetwood Town.

A wage cap needs to be across the board for it to be fair and effective.
 
A wage cap needs to be across the board for it to be fair and effective.
I'm not sure that I like the idea. Well run businesses with big support are being handicapped, whilst poorly run businesses are being advantaged as the competition is being reeled in/restricted, regardless of how badly they run their affairs.
 
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I'm not sure, I like the idea. Well run businesses with big support are being handicapped, whilst poorly run businesses are being advantaged as the competition is being reeled in/restricted, regardless of how badly they run their affairs.

The whole game needs better governance, and bad practice needs rooting out. You can't have a situation where poor practice is rewarded simply by levelling up for the sake of it. But I definitely support the principles of a wage cap. The game has been ****ing skewed out of all proportion with some clubs paying one player one week's salary that would keep a lower league club going for 6 months.
 
Why do you mention Jimmy Hill? He was the old fashioned version of Parry and every other parasite.
Jimmy Hill was the following
player
manager
Director
Broadcaster

and instrumental in
removing maximum wage
First all seater stadium in England
3 points for a win

so not really like Parry et al

PS Clough was on the take throughout his career .
 
Understandable when clubs are selling their stadiums to fund signing a load of mediocre players for a tenth promotion push. A million ain’t gonna cover just player wages for long at some clubs.


Will vary massively depending on the club concerned.

Given their history of dubious shenanigans, I don’t think QPR should be trusted with the petty cash from the tea club.
 
English Football League clubs have rejected the Premier League's proposed £50m rescue package for League One and Two clubs, saying it "falls some way short" of the required amount.

Top-flight clubs made the offer after deciding not to pursue Project Big Picture.

On Wednesday, the Premier League said talks about how to help the Championship are ongoing.

The EFL said any settlement "must meet the requirements of all 72 clubs".
 
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This gonna rumble on and on I think.
The RS & the Mancs were daft enough to put a free lunch on the table and a promise of 25% of TV on an ongoing basis.

That’s now set a level of expectation, and they EFL now seem to think that PL clubs should give up a further 15% of their TV revenue, just because.

The Govt has threatened to review the entire governance of football should the PL not foot the bill for a force majeure and Govt policy to continue to refuse to allow any fans back into football grounds.

Bail out the arts but not give a bean to local community clubs, sounds fair.
 
The RS & the Mancs were daft enough to put a free lunch on the table and a promise of 25% of TV on an ongoing basis.

That’s now set a level of expectation, and they EFL now seem to think that PL clubs should give up a further 15% of their TV revenue, just because.

The Govt has threatened to review the entire governance of football should the PL not foot the bill for a force majeure and Govt policy to continue to refuse to allow any fans back into football grounds.

Bail out the arts but not give a bean to local community clubs, sounds fair.

I think they knew what they were doing, and there'll be another ask coming that doesn't relate to voting rights.
 
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I think they knew what they were doing, and there'll be another ask coming that doesn't relate to voting rights.
I think they intended to create a debate but they made the fatal error of putting numbers to their transparent power grab, they should have spoken in generic principles and not actual numbers.
 
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I think they knew what they were doing, and there'll be another ask coming that doesn't relate to voting rights.

and a tasty sweetener for the PL clubs.

They'll keep putting it forward.

They lined up everything but made one fck off mistake - no pay off for the PL clubs. The very ppl they needed to vote for it. If/when they bring it back, they won't be making that mistake again.
 
The whole game needs better governance, and bad practice needs rooting out. You can't have a situation where poor practice is rewarded simply by levelling up for the sake of it. But I definitely support the principles of a wage cap. The game has been ****ing skewed out of all proportion with some clubs paying one player one week's salary that would keep a lower league club going for 6 months.
And then giving him an £8m loyalty bonus and not playing him... <whistle>
 
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The whole game needs better governance, and bad practice needs rooting out. You can't have a situation where poor practice is rewarded simply by levelling up for the sake of it. But I definitely support the principles of a wage cap. The game has been ****ing skewed out of all proportion with some clubs paying one player one week's salary that would keep a lower league club going for 6 months.
And some clubs contributing half of a players wages which would do the same thing for lower league clubs
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The whole game needs better governance, and bad practice needs rooting out. You can't have a situation where poor practice is rewarded simply by levelling up for the sake of it. But I definitely support the principles of a wage cap. The game has been ****ing skewed out of all proportion with some clubs paying one player one week's salary that would keep a lower league club going for 6 months.

and some clubs paying 400k a week for a player out on loan which would do the same thing for lower league clubs <whistle>
 
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Government I believe have already placed a shot across the bow of the PremierSHIP, more or less get your house in order or will do it for you.

Dominic Cummings to head up a quango of like minded types who have never been to a footie game? ... sounds plausible <laugh>