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The few Orthodox Jews i have spoken with about this (led by a "born again Christian" who i worked with trying to tell them their beliefs) all said that Israel will come about when the Messiah arrives (not returns as Christians believe). They used to get royally pissed off with Sid (my colleague) trying to tell them their beliefs.

Yeah and the messiah only arrives when everybody in existence is being a good Jew, good luck getting the isis boys to shut up shop and bang a few shapes out to Hava Naguila.
 
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Zion Shmion, **** that chat, tell you what this board spends far too much time talking about that boring **** Kipper. There’s a load of decent posters on here and we always seems to end up back at that globular toad. Let him rot.
<applause><applause>.
 
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<laugh> Great call.

My dog (Diego) is named after the saber tooth tiger in that, everybody thought my lad named him after Forlan at the time, a few years later he confessed it was after the tiger <laugh>
Sid and that nutty **** chasing the nut, make those films.
 
So I point out what it actually is, as you patently didn’t know.

I also point out that your understanding of there being no anti Zionist Jews was wrong.

Yet you’re happy with ‘your take’ hahahaha Ok mate. Facts vs ill informed opinion again. ****ing standard these days. Hey ho.

It's taken you all day to agree with me that Zionism isn't rascism ... that's enough for me ... I don't have your obvious passion for them, so I apologise for not being inclined to indulge your need to debate the subject ad nauseum... perhaps you could refrain from banning HIAG and Aber for long enough for them to tickle your intellectual vanity on the subject?.... now if you'd like to discuss the struggle of the indigenous tribes of North America, I'd me more than happy, as it's a subject that has always interested and fascinated me? <cheers>
 
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The few Orthodox Jews i have spoken with about this (led by a "born again Christian" who i worked with trying to tell them their beliefs) all said that Israel will come about when the Messiah arrives (not returns as Christians believe). They used to get royally pissed off with Sid (my colleague) trying to tell them their beliefs.

Yep, so they’re anti Zionist - as they don’t believe that the current state of Israel has a right to exist.

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It's taken you all day to agree with me that Zionism isn't rascism ... that's enough for me ... I don't have your obvious passion for them, so I apologise for not being inclined to indulge your need to debate the subject ad nauseum... perhaps you could refrain from banning HIAG and Aber for long enough for them to tickle your intellectual vanity on the subject?.... now if you'd like to discuss the struggle of the indigenous tribes of North America, I'd me more than happy, as it's a subject that has always interested and fascinated me? <cheers>
<laugh> Rons had some rose wine.
 
Yep, so they’re anti Zionist - as they don’t believe that the current state of Israel has a right to exist.

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Interesting subject. Just on this point, don't both believe in having the State of Israel but disagree in the manner it comes about?
 
It's taken you all day to agree with me that Zionism isn't rascism ... that's enough for me ... I don't have your obvious passion for them, so I apologise for not being inclined to indulge your need to debate the subject ad nauseum... perhaps you could refrain from banning HIAG and Aber for long enough for them to tickle your intellectual vanity on the subject?.... now if you'd like to discuss the struggle of the indigenous tribes of North America, I'd me more than happy, as it's a subject that has always interested and fascinated me? <cheers>
What? I never said Zionism was racist though, you’ve literally made that up <laugh>

Here’s the thing, you didn’t understand the subject, nothing wrong with that, many don’t. Only you couldn’t bring yourself to simply admit it, and even when I’ve explained the basics of it to you, you’ve chosen to plough on regardless and ignore every word of it.

I know very little about the indigenous tribes of North America btw, so if you’re knowledgable on that subject I’ll bow to your better knowledge. See how this works?

I never banned HIAG either, so you’re speaking to the wrong bloke.

Aber isn’t banned.
 
Interesting subject. Just on this point, don't both believe in having the State of Israel but disagree in the manner it comes about?
Yes that’s the crux of it as I mentioned earlier, only God can deliver them to the promised land.
 
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It's taken you all day to agree with me that Zionism isn't rascism ... that's enough for me ... I don't have your obvious passion for them, so I apologise for not being inclined to indulge your need to debate the subject ad nauseum... perhaps you could refrain from banning HIAG and Aber for long enough for them to tickle your intellectual vanity on the subject?.... now if you'd like to discuss the struggle of the indigenous tribes of North America, I'd me more than happy, as it's a subject that has always interested and fascinated me? <cheers>

Tobes didn't ban HiaG, I did, solely me mate, no hidden PM's or discussions for me to ban him. Tobes knew as much about Hiag's ban as everyone else, nothing. I've already written why I banned him, go look for yourself, I'm sure I quoted you into it.
 
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Yes that’s the crux of it as I mentioned earlier, only God can deliver them to the promised land.

I have to say it's the manner in which zionists wanted it to come about that I probably disagree with rather than the premise that it should exist which I do agree with.
 
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