Off Topic Politics Thread

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He's still the wrong Miliband unfortunately, but fair play to him, he had Boris pinned and was still punching him. More of this please from any opposition MPs who get given the chance - and let's face it, ****-ups are a daily occurance now with Boris so there's masses of ammunition
 
There is a video, of someone casually walking up to a police car and shooting into it.

This is a direct symptom of blaming and politisicing the whole police force in the manner that you guys are.

The correct answer is stop stoking up so much emotion in people, carry out full and thorough investigations into what is wrong with the police forces and arrest/charge the bad apples. This can be done. The police are necessary in any society, and demonising them completely to this extent is ridiculous.

Instead, we have had the Democratic party jumping on the 'all police are evil' bandwagon for political gain, and its making everyhing even worse. No matter how corrupt the police force is, the words of the media and politicians are causing cops to be shot in Broad daylight, just for being cops. You have to stand back and admit that there is something very wrong in how you are conducting yourself if you feel that that is in any way normal/good.

The last time this happened a few months ago, it turned out that the shooter was an extreme right wing Boogaloo Boy, wanting to start a race war. You sure you want to jump straight to "it's all the Democrats' fault" here? It didn't work out terribly well last time!


Here's the previous one, where an Air Force Sgt and Boogaloo Boy tried to use the protests as cover to kill a police officer, in the hopes that it would be blamed on the protesters and kick off a race war:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/06/17/boogaloo-steven-carrillo/
 
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I really thought that the government having to break the law woukd make some people start questioning if brexit is a good idea.

But I honestly don't think any predicted outcome could change people's opinions at this point.


Brexit is a cult. It’s followers aren’t susceptible either to rational argument or to mounting evidence of the damage it’s already causing.
 
Brexit is based on bigotry, racism and hatred. A bit like the KKK.

Poor old Churchill would have been disappointed to find that had the Nazis landed in Britain then the right wing half the bloody population would have gone over to their side. People are often unkind about the behaviour of the French during the Nazi occupation but I am now convinced it would have been much worse here.
 
I'm not as pessimistic as that. I think that if the referendum was rerun today with all that is going on then the result would be 60% + remain. Don't forget we were promised the easiest deal in history. It's not looking like that is it?
 
I'm not as pessimistic as that. I think that if the referendum was rerun today with all that is going on then the result would be 60% + remain. Don't forget we were promised the easiest deal in history. It's not looking like that is it?

You are right and it is worth noting that this is now so far off of what Brexiteers were promised, the referendum was fraudulent enough as it was, but the end result of this will have absolutely nothing to do with what Brexit was meant to be.

I do feel that we will be at least trying to rejoin the EU within 20 years, I think the main concern is that the UK will have disintegrated by then.

This is really just an example of a population being stabbed in the back by its politicians.
 
I really thought that the government having to break the law woukd make some people start questioning if brexit is a good idea.

But I honestly don't think any predicted outcome could change people's opinions at this point.
It seems like the ardent brexiteers are trying to spin it as though we HAVE to break some laws because the EU are terrible and unfair to us. And they're only little laws, apparently.
I think there is a large percentage of this country who will be supporting this whatever happens because the alternative means admitting that the whole project is deeply flawed
 
Truthfully, I am scared at where the country is now heading politically.

Lies - normalised
Hatred -normalised
Proroguing parliament - normalised
Breaking the law - normalised

Add in the Covid crisis and potential disruption of Brexit (if the forecasts are correct), causing unemployment and misery. Mix that with the large majority of extreme right-wingers in parliament, and it isn't too much of a stretch to think we could start seeing out and out fascism in the UK. The playbook is eerily similar to 1930s Germany.

I'm an optimist by nature, and don't think we will slip down that route, but I keep getting more and more surprised by what this government thinks is acceptable.
 
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Truthfully, I am scared at where the country is now heading politically.

Lies - normalised
Hatred -normalised
Proroguing parliament - normalised
Breaking the law - normalised

Add in the Covid crisis and potential disruption of Brexit (if the forecasts are correct), causing unemployment and mister. Mix that with the large majority of extreme right-wingers in parliament, and it isn't too much of a stretch to think we could start seeing out and out fascism in the UK. The playbook is eerily similar to 1930s Germany.

I'm an optimist by nature, and don't think we will slip down that route, but I keep getting more and more surprised by what this government thinks is acceptable.

The worrying part for me is not that the government thinks it is acceptable, because we expected low standards from this bunch.
What worries me more is that there are so many members of the public who are willing to stoop to the same low standards.