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lfcpower said:
Can't agree with you more. I'm completely sure we'll be back in full lockdown within a couple of months. A huge majority of people are either not bothered like you say, or just dense and don't get it. Just try to protect yourself and the people around you that you care about, that's all you can do. Nobody else gives a flying ...
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Serious question, where/when does it end?
This thing is never going away, it's basically another strain of the flu virus which has also never gone away, we have a flu vaccine now yet still lose thousands of vulnerable people per year to it. When we eventually have a covid19 virus we will still be in the same positionwe are with flu.
I guess what i am trying to say is that covid has done it's worst (for now with the most vulnerable) and we should expect this to go forward just like the flu.
The country is at a stand still and going backwards week by week based on infections detected/tested, we are now testing many more than we were two months ago so the positive results are bound to be higher (just like they would be if we started mass testing for other viruses) yet the death rates have dropped to a minimal figure.
A second "wave" is being predicted by most, they are right. We are now on about the 10,000th "wave" of flu, it still kills people every time yet we carry on with our lives.
 
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Diego said:
Serious question, where/when does it end?
This thing is never going away, it's basically another strain of the flu virus which has also never gone away, we have a flu vaccine now yet still lose thousands of vulnerable people per year to it. When we eventually have a covid19 virus we will still be in the same positionwe are with flu.
I guess what i am trying to say is that covid has done it's worst (for now with the most vulnerable) and we should expect this to go forward just like the flu.
The country is at a stand still and going backwards week by week based on infections detected/tested, we are now testing many more than we were two months ago so the positive results are bound to be higher (just like they would be if we started mass testing for other viruses) yet the death rates have dropped to a minimal figure.
A second "wave" is being predicted by most, they are right. We are now on about the 10,000th "wave" of flu, it still kills people every time yet we carry on with our lives.
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It will become normalised, another ailment like cancer, pneumonia, flu, stroke etc that kills people but you know secretly will never happen to you.
 
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THE FOOL said:
It will become normalised, another ailment like cancer, pneumonia, flu, stroke etc that kills people but you know secretly will never happen to you.
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Just another fact of normality mate, we can't fix everything or we would be Gods.
When would you all it safe, when there are zero new cases?
 
Diego said:
Just another fact of normality mate, we can't fix everything or we would be Gods.
When would you all it safe, when there are zero new cases?
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Depends what youd call safe really. Safe for me and the kids, probably now. Safe for my mam, **** knows.

However as she says, she's just waiting to find out what's she going to die of, not that she's going to die.
 
THE FOOL said:
Depends what youd call safe really. Safe for me and the kids, probably now. Safe for my mam, **** knows.

However as she says, she's just waiting to find out what's she going to die of, not that she's going to die.
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TBF your mam is right, there are so many things that "get you in the end" so to speak that worrying about one specific thing is pointless.
Carry on with life until it ends and enjoy the ride.
 
Diego said:
TBF your mam is right, there are so many things that "get you in the end" so to speak that worrying about one specific thing is pointless.
Carry on with life until it ends and enjoy the ride.
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To be fair, this episode has led to a few conversations that we never would of had I expect.

At the start I was ****ting myself that I was going to lose her , she's not in the greatest of health and I was proper panicing.

Even before lockdown ended she insisted on coming to ours, as she put it id rather live for 6 months seeing the grand kids than for 10 years and not see them.
 
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Diego said:
Just another fact of normality mate, we can't fix everything or we would be Gods.
When would you all it safe, when there are zero new cases?
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That's not the problem. If people go back to normal the cases will overwhelm the NHS. So you either treat them at the expense of all non-covid health matters, or turn them away and tell them to die alone.
 
astro said:
That's not the problem. If people go back to normal the cases will overwhelm the NHS. So you either treat them at the expense of all non-covid health matters, or turn them away and tell them to die alone.
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You reckon we will have to put a few in all those "nightingale hospitals" that stood empty at the height of the NHS being overwhelmed in the first wave?
 
Diego said:
You reckon we will have to put a few in all those "nightingale hospitals" that stood empty at the height of the NHS being overwhelmed in the first wave?
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They were empty because the Tories love opening new buildings in front of the press but didn't want to pay for any nurses to actually staff them. It made no sense to move nurses to Nightingales rather than their usual hospitals so they simply couldn't function and had to send anyone needing treatment to a real hospital.

Unless you mean make them concentration camps where people just go to die?
 
astro said:
They were empty because the Tories love opening new buildings in front of the press but didn't want to pay for any nurses to actually staff them. It made no sense to move nurses to Nightingales rather than their usual hospitals so they simply couldn't function and had to send anyone needing treatment to a real hospital.

Unless you mean make them concentration camps where people just go to die?
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When are you going to grow up?
 
THE FOOL said:
I dont think it the schools, its everything. After the initial panic, people just arnt as arsed anymore.

Its incredible how quickly people can become bored with something. No social distancing, mask worn as a sop, pubs absolutely rammed.

The local Conservative club, populated almost exclusively by older ladies and gentlemen is absolutely chocker. Let me tell you, even though they are most at risk, they really don't give a flying ****.
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Wasn't saying it's just the school's, just that it was inevitable once the schools go back. Too soon for schools to be effecting figures, it's only been a week (although several schools already have confirmed cases)
 
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astro said:
They were empty because the Tories love opening new buildings in front of the press but didn't want to pay for any nurses to actually staff them. It made no sense to move nurses to Nightingales rather than their usual hospitals so they simply couldn't function and had to send anyone needing treatment to a real hospital.

Unless you mean make them concentration camps where people just go to die?
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I always thought the nightingale "hospitals' where more or less just that.

They weren't for treatment, more to give someplace to house the overflow from hospitals that they thought would die, just keep people comfortable until they passed.
 
Zanjinho said:
Wasn't saying it's just the school's, just that it was inevitable once the schools go back. Too soon for schools to be effecting figures, it's only been a week (although several schools already have confirmed cases)
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The school that Johnson visited while closed and waved his arms around saying look how safe it is has already had an entire class put into quarantine
 
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johnsonsbaby said:
New cases are rising mainly in 17-21 year olds but fatalities and hospital admissions continue to go down.
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This virus is interesting. We in Africa as a whole are still puzzled why it didnt hit us as bad as the rest of the world.
Tanzania refused to lockdown and stopped even reporting cases. They have been playing football matches in packed stadiums had a memorial for their former president who passed away a month ago. No social distancing no masks. The hospitals are not overwhelmed by any covid patients

Here in Kenya whilst they locked down the two major towns and put a dusk till dawn curfew for two months, we have just crossed the 600 death mark today. We do try wearing masks but there is little or no social distancing. Our cases were rising until an expose on corruption of PPE procurement broke out and miraculously we started flattening our curve. Hope it gets better for your lot though.
 
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Milnermino Lamborini said:
This virus is interesting. We in Africa as a whole are still puzzled why it didnt hit us as bad as the rest of the world.
Tanzania refused to lockdown and stopped even reporting cases. They have been playing football matches in packed stadiums had a memorial for their former president who passed away a month ago. No social distancing no masks. The hospitals are not overwhelmed by any covid patients

Here in Kenya whilst they locked down the two major towns and put a dusk till dawn curfew for two months, we have just crossed the 600 death mark today. We do try wearing masks but there is little or no social distancing. Our cases were rising until an expose on corruption of PPE procurement broke out and miraculously we started flattening our curve. Hope it gets better for your lot though.
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I noticed a while back how unaffected Africa was compared to the rest of the world. Hope it remains as unaffected. I also found it interesting because of all the news about BAME individuals not faring well should they contract it. It doesn't appear so in Africa.
 
THE FOOL said:
I dont think the country could afford another lockdown. I think that's why more and more onus is being put on the general public.

Another 3/4 months lock down would see any number of companies go bust, mass redundancies. I dont think online shopping would save us this time.
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It can't. Simple as that.
 
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