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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. Star of David Bardsley

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    Could they just do something mad like not break the law?
     
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  2. kiwiqpr

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    works for both sides
     
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  3. ELLERS

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    No laws have been broken. stop surmising.
     
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    If you meet socially in groups of more than 6, you will be dispersed, fined & possibly arrested by the police.

    If we work together in the national interest, we can defeat this unprecedented #coronavirus
     
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  5. ELLERS

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    Whether its law breaking or not (there's definitely a debate about whether such international law is enforceable, and if so, by which court), it is an interesting tactic and has got the EU bureaucrats spitting out their vintage Latour.

    There is a gamble here, and I can't say yet, whether it will pay off. But I am really enjoying the EU looking uncomfortable when they're so used to giving countries like Greece a good kicking
     
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    I don't suppose it is enforceable, but it would certainly be breaking the law. After the Cummings fiasco and now this, how can Johnson expect the public to abide by his draconian, puritanical lockdown laws?
     
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    But it's not a law. It's making changes by a sovereign parliament to an unenforceable agreement. It's split the Tories down the middle, that's for sure.
     
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    We aren’t that far from Brexiteers gathering en masse to sing “No one likes us, we don’t care”.
     
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    It would be breaking International Law, they've admitted as much.
     
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    You're right, they did use that term. I just think international obligations are nebulous. It's not a statue law, or common law. It's not UN law. I suppose it is a Treaty Law, and that if the EU did want to take action, it would be tried by the International Court of Justice. Expensive, time consuming, and I'm not sure doing it would achieve anything. Life would have moved on.

    I still think all this is threats and posturing
     
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    Doesn't do much for our international reputation though, does it?

    Who would want sign a trade deal with a nation that doesn't abide by its obligations?
     
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    Who ****ing signs an agreement of any sort without ****ing reading it?! What a tit
     
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    Just sign it, read it later, and if there's stuff in there we don't like, we'll renege on it.
     
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    But the UK is not reneging on the Withdrawal Agreement. I assume, for example, that we will be paying the £39bn etc. There's a dispute over the clauses re implimentation over Northern Ireland. The UK says it is for Parliament to interpret and bring in laws as it sees fit
     
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    Not reneging on all of it maybe, just the difficult bits. You can't pick and choose. We signed an agreement and should honour it. Who's going to want to deal with us if we don't?
     
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    The EU made noises about interfering with trade between NI and the rest of the UK. The UK goverment responds by making a law that only sovereign parliament can rule on the trade inside the UK. It's tit for tat stuff and I don't see it affecting the UK's standing in the world, because it will be seen for what it is
     
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    It’s all hot air... if people are worrying about our standing look no further than Corbyn’s Labour Party and the 1200 incidents regarding Jews?
     
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    What does that have to do with literally anything?
     
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