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Could they just do something mad like not break the law?

 

works for both sides

 

No laws have been broken. stop surmising.

 

Christopher Snowdon
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This sounds better in the original German.
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Whether its law breaking or not (there's definitely a debate about whether such international law is enforceable, and if so, by which court), it is an interesting tactic and has got the EU bureaucrats spitting out their vintage Latour.

There is a gamble here, and I can't say yet, whether it will pay off. But I am really enjoying the EU looking uncomfortable when they're so used to giving countries like Greece a good kicking

 

I don't suppose it is enforceable, but it would certainly be breaking the law. After the Cummings fiasco and now this, how can Johnson expect the public to abide by his draconian, puritanical lockdown laws?

 

But it's not a law. It's making changes by a sovereign parliament to an unenforceable agreement. It's split the Tories down the middle, that's for sure.

 

We aren’t that far from Brexiteers gathering en masse to sing “No one likes us, we don’t care”.

 

It would be breaking International Law, they've admitted as much.

 

You're right, they did use that term. I just think international obligations are nebulous. It's not a statue law, or common law. It's not UN law. I suppose it is a Treaty Law, and that if the EU did want to take action, it would be tried by the International Court of Justice. Expensive, time consuming, and I'm not sure doing it would achieve anything. Life would have moved on.

I still think all this is threats and posturing

 

Doesn't do much for our international reputation though, does it?

Who would want sign a trade deal with a nation that doesn't abide by its obligations?

 

Who ****ing signs an agreement of any sort without ****ing reading it?! What a tit

 

Just sign it, read it later, and if there's stuff in there we don't like, we'll renege on it.

 

But the UK is not reneging on the Withdrawal Agreement. I assume, for example, that we will be paying the £39bn etc. There's a dispute over the clauses re implimentation over Northern Ireland. The UK says it is for Parliament to interpret and bring in laws as it sees fit

 

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Not reneging on all of it maybe, just the difficult bits. You can't pick and choose. We signed an agreement and should honour it. Who's going to want to deal with us if we don't?

 

The EU made noises about interfering with trade between NI and the rest of the UK. The UK goverment responds by making a law that only sovereign parliament can rule on the trade inside the UK. It's tit for tat stuff and I don't see it affecting the UK's standing in the world, because it will be seen for what it is

 

It’s all hot air... if people are worrying about our standing look no further than Corbyn’s Labour Party and the 1200 incidents regarding Jews?

 

What does that have to do with literally anything?