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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%
  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%

  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
Well, more at the feet of Bush - Blair was just his puppet. What you conveniently forget, though, is that millions of Labour supporters (including me) and dozens of Labour MPs (notable amongst them, one J. Corbyn) opposed our intervention in Iraq. The vast majority of Tory MPs, in contrast, supported it.

But why not just actually address Bob's point? Or the 80 points in my earlier post that you dismissed. How can you and the other Tories on here possibly defend the breathtaking incompetence and shameless corruption of this government?
Maybe you forget Stroller that those who voted for the war did so on the information given in the house by Blair. Which was all bollox. He mislead the House and the country. However what will always grind with me is sending our boys off to war I’ll-equipped and then got his minister Geoff Hoon to lie About it. Blair has a lot of blood on his hands.
 
Maybe you forget Stroller that those who voted for the war did so on the information given in the house by Blair. Which was all bollox. He mislead the House and the country. However what will always grind with me is sending our boys off to war I’ll-equipped and then got his minister Geoff Hoon to lie About it. Blair has a lot of blood on his hands.

Remarkable then that Corbyn and dozens of other Labour MPs were able to see through Blair on Iraq, but the Tories couldn't.

Nothing to say on your current government's incompetence and corruption, then?
 
Why do we love on an era where failure is rewarded amongst the elite? It beggars belief. Harding who has presided over talk talk and the embarrassing 'world beating' track and trace, is now going to oversee the new public health england/nhs privatisation.....theres less corruption in Belarus !!!

Without reading your post the answer is either “Brexit” or “it winds up the left so it’s worth it”.
 
Much better to be lied to by the likes of Blair and Major than let any extremes get in.
They all lie, they are all corrupt, they all look after themselves.

Corbyn seemed pretty open and incorruptible which arguably was his undoing. Lots of reasons people might not wish to vote for him still but I refuse to believe they’re all corrupt. Just seems like a way for people to justify to themselves voting for the worst people.
 
Corbyn seemed pretty open and incorruptible which arguably was his undoing. Lots of reasons people might not wish to vote for him still but I refuse to believe they’re all corrupt. Just seems like a way for people to justify to themselves voting for the worst people.

Or not voting at all ?
As you quite rightly say, Corbyn seemed open and incorruptible.....and though I didn’t agree with all his views and beliefs, he was someone I pinned my hopes on as being a new way in politics.....and the fact that those now in charge did everything though could to get rid of him...leaves me no hope.
**** them all
 
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Remarkable then that Corbyn and dozens of other Labour MPs were able to see through Blair on Iraq, but the Tories couldn't.

Nothing to say on your current government's incompetence and corruption, then?
Shame Corbyn couldn’t see the Jewish problem in his party... or could he? But what do we expect from a bloke who called terrorists ‘brothers’?
Deluded as usual Stroller.
 
Shame Corbyn couldn’t see the Jewish problem in his party... or could he? But what do we expect from a bloke who called terrorists ‘brothers’?
Deluded as usual Stroller.

Still nothing to say about your government then? How do you think it's been going?

Can any Tory on here defend this shower?
 
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Still nothing to say about your government then? How do you think it's been going?

Can any Tory on here defend this shower?
In what way?
Are you blaming them for this pandemic?
Stroller I have said before (on Many occasions) that a few bods on here with their entrenched views won’t make a difference. :)
Do you really believe that people will turn away from Boris and vote for that wooden top Starmer? Keep dreaming fella... you never know it might be a hung parliament one day? <laugh>
 
In what way?
Are you blaming them for this pandemic?
Stroller I have said before (on Many occasions) that a few bods on here with their entrenched views won’t make a difference. :)
Do you really believe that people will turn away from Boris and vote for that wooden top Starmer? Keep dreaming fella... you never know it might be a hung parliament one day? <laugh>

You might just answer the question some day.
 
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In what way?
Are you blaming them for this pandemic?
Stroller I have said before (on Many occasions) that a few bods on here with their entrenched views won’t make a difference. :)
Do you really believe that people will turn away from Boris and vote for that wooden top Starmer? Keep dreaming fella... you never know it might be a hung parliament one day? <laugh>

Same old Ellers.....always avoiding a straight question :)
 
It's a waste of time isn't it? Ellers really is a strange case.

Perhaps one of the other Tories on here can make case for the defence.
I gave up trying to get a straight answer from him on anything months ago.....my frustration was turning into anger.
It’s not worth even trying anymore....you’ll learn Strolls.
 
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Sadly it not about giving straight answers, it’s more about bothering to argue with people so entrenched in their own political beliefs.
Same old same old.:)