what message? defund the police? anti family? revolution? this blm dont highlight the violence at their rallies and protests. they certainly are not highlighting how much black on black violence there is or that slavery still goes on in african countries. i have read their websites. BLM is extreme left wing anti capitalist. its totally intolerant of anyone who does not share their views. the average person is not racist because they dont share blm views. its sinister ****.
Utterly, utterly clueless. 18% of the UK believe that some races are born less intelligent than others Flatshare bias based on names A handy little guide to our own PM's racism over the years Not to mention the centuries of killing people by their thousands based purely on their race. But sure, kid yourself we're not a racist country . I'm white and won't pretend to be offended but I've seen mates be racially abused here in the uk in front of my very own eyes. If you don't believe we're a tiny bit racist here then your head is totally in the sand. I don't condone the violence at the protests. But when you and your family have been told for decades that you are second class citizens then it is going to generate just a tiny bit of anger don't you think? It's oh so predictable - 'oh but there's slavery in African countries', and ' but ALL lives matter'. Of course they do mate. Please tell me what is wrong with the idea of defunding the police in America as well please.
Yeah of course it can, but let's face it, over the centuries we as a country did a hell of a lot more enslaving and killing than was done back to us. Why is it that we as Brits absolutely love to celebrate how brilliant we are in saving the world on multiple occasions through World Wars that none of us were old enough to fight in, but yet as soon as the years of murder are brought up we suddenly absolve ourselves of any blame? We either take responsibility for doing both or we take responsibility for doing neither. You can't pick and choose.
To be fair as a nation the UK has apologised to a lot of countries and races over the years and granted independence, along with huge sums of money which are still paid to ex colonies, even India who really no longer need our money. The Japanese, Germans and Italians also apologised for their part in various activities over the centuries, including genocide of their own race. The Chinese, Russians, North Koreans still actively pursue enslaving, imprisoning, starving and killing their own people as well as some very dubious ongoing stuff in Africa and South and Central America that hardly gets a mention. At least we've fessed up and saw the errors of the ways of some of our distant ancestors. But there is only so many times you can say sorry. It's still history, and saying sorry a million times can't undo any of it.
Yeah of course, when I say 'we' though, I'm more talking about we as a people though rather than as a government pardoning certain acts and the like. It doesn't matter how many times a government pardons something, if we continue to celebrate our victories in world wars but then ignore how c*nty we were across the planet for years, that's pretty hypocritical don't you think? Everyone knows slavery goes on in NK, Africa, Russia, etc, but that's not to detract from the movement though. Just because other groups are also attacked and victimised, it doesn't mean that we should just stop everything. Imagine if we'd done that to the women's rights movement in the 20th century.
I think younger generations of people in the UK are now more aware, enlightened, and seem frankly embarrassed about some of these historic issues than us oldies are. But every generation in history has blamed the ones before it for what they have (or haven't) done. But the downside to some of these recent events worldwide has been violence and unsocial behaviour at rallies and protests. And that's aside from the lack of social distancing often being practiced.
So we absolve the sins, the savage histories, the treachory of all nations worldwide by blaming the poor old Brits, is it the Irish, the Welsh, the Scots or the English specifically that should be held responsible , it's a nonsense. Have a look at the countries these protests are taking place in, they are all democracies where they have the freedom to protest at the patience, permission and will of the majority of the people of that land, take a look at countries like Iran, China, Russia, North Vietnam,Hong Kong, you don't find these protests taking place there because they would all be shot or banged up, why are people so desperate they risk their lives by the thousands to live in our country if we are such despots. I am proud of our country and it's freedoms and talking about responsibilities, look at the billions of pounds we doll out every years to nations around the globe, supporting all nations and people in need and historically this nation was on it's knees from huge sacrifices preserving the very freedoms that these people seek to change. Equality for all people yes but by the will of the majority, not the force, violence of the few and their version, we suffered that with Al-Queda and ISIS.
I m white and i have racially abused for it and as a fifteen year old kid had a knife pulled on me because somebody who was black told me he wanted my money because I was white scum. I fought back got stabbed in the shoulder but decades later dont hold it against a race. the point about my father in law being in a German pow camp??? Should we hate the Germans? my father in law didnt neither did his children. BLM is about power. you kneel for us or you are racist. tin pot anti democratic revolutionaries and its on their sites for anybody to read and there is no view on slavery in Africa or uk knife crime. BLM appear not to care about those lives!!! Hypocrites and a tad racist themselves because white silence is violence and if you disagree with BLM you are the racist problem. They are prejudiced!! Defund the police here? we need more of them cracking down on crime. many crimes are not investigated. the police are not institutionally racist. America? my family, my community, my country here comes first. Americas black power militias and blm riots with its death and destruction are not needed here.
When BLM attacks a Country as racist that helped to abolish slavery in parts of the world but ignores real and actual slavery occurring now that is hypocritical. Obviously protesting in a nation that allows protest outside offending nations embassies or organising boycotts of goods and services does not fit the chosen one eyed narrative. That is a decision for democratic Countries to make. The mob enforced autonomous zones in America have seem murders and crime increase. I would not want to see paramilitary groups setting up road blocks and demanding tolls to enter "their" areas as is happening in America in the UK.
Reading your post @Red Alert you claim you've read these BLM websites and then go on to show the really don't understand the meaning of 'defund the police'. I'm not sure you have read these websites at all have you? It's funny you mention the lack of mention of UK knife crime. There's nothing about UK knife crime on there because our police aren't stabbing civilians to death! Whereas we all know what the US police are up to... Your posts reaks of victimisation. It's nothing about power, it's about protecting those who have been attacked for decades. If the country really did give a damn about crime like you say they do, they wouldn't have continually voted for a party that lowered and lowered their resources year after year. Don't kid yourself that it's about that. If I remember correctly you posted on here saying that you believe homosexuality is wrong, so maybe not the best company to be in with regard to oppression of minorities eh.
A leading abolitionists house was in Bristol's park street. Britain used its military to support ending slavery. Facts.. Why does BLM not organise protests against nations that are allowing slavery to continue? You also did not address the point about lawless and violent autonomous zones as alternatives to policing in America.
Because I'm not sure they exist. Do they actually? If they do then that of course is horrendous but I wouldn't let a minority distract from the wider point. Not that I believe it is real mind. Sounds a bit like Trump and Farage telling people there are no-go zones in Britain to me, which is obviously utter bollocks.
Tell that to the Chinese Uighurs Muslems being helped in " Vocational Training Camps" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-45474279
Everyone knows that China has an appalling human rights record, horrific, but what are you trying to say? That we shouldn't support black people because they're not the only ones getting hurt? Come on, really?
You are lecturing people on a thread about defunding the police but are not aware of the autonomous zones in America which are alternatives to policing. With respect that is being ill informed. One google of autonomous zones America produced 31,400,000 results. Top of the page was the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone Seattle. Why are BLM not protesting about this murder in that zone? A zone supported, occupied and organised by BLM. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53491223 A little scrape below the surface of BLM highlights a naked Emperor.
If everyone knows it why is it the BLM doesn't go and protest outside the Chinese Embassies and register their protest for human rights on behallf of those people, they are just a self interested group banging on about their own causes. Surely Chinese Muslims lives matter just as much as Black or White?
tiger-emyrs-wolf said: ↑ Right where to start its up to people how to mark their support against racism it is not up to anyone to say yay they didn't kneel or yay they did just because you agree/disagree with it. Rather than complain about the use of black lives matter be better to find out why they don't feel like their lives matter then just be like Sky are a private company if they want to spread the message that's up to them they decide what they show and what they don't if it increases the conversation as to the issue people are feeling thats a good thing. The BLM didn't create violence it was created by violence it is highlighting violence faced on a daily basis for people. Violence on white people is shown i saw some yesterday. Yes oppression will still go on but doesn't mean we have to accept it we can and should all do better ……………………. [Quote red alert what message? defund the police? anti family? revolution? this blm dont highlight the violence at their rallies and protests. they certainly are not highlighting how much black on black violence there is or that slavery still goes on in african countries. I have read their websites. BLM is extreme left wing anti capitalist. its totally intolerant of anyone who does not share their views. the average person is not racist because they dont share blm views. its sinister ****. Red Alert, Today at 12:42 AM … Quote] RA totally agree with your comments...in a nutshell really, blunter and to the point than I have put it … their concentration is not on the real problems of human life [ all problems ] that has been going on for over 5000 years but on just one small part of it that gave peeps like president OBAMA that opportunity to be the most powerful man in the world ……. in a way it is all part of the evolution of the human species …
