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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. Staines R's

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    It’s all harmony in EU EU land.........
     
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  2. Star of David Bardsley

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    Indeed.
     
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    Yet they eventually agreed a massive recovery package.
     
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  4. Staines R's

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    No I seriously don’t get your post.......what’s the connection between the two ?
     
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    Agreed or some were forced to accept ?

    Wonder how much was spent on the actual conference......more red wine anyone ?
     
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    The connection is that we’re all being shafted by our own government worse than any make-believe shafting the EU boogeyman could have had in store for us in the dumbest Express opinion column and almost everyone just shrugs their shoulders.

    The thread I posted lists all the awful **** that has gone down here in just a few days and it barely gets a mention close to the front pages.

    David Lammy’s speech (always a popular character on here) summarised it very well.
     
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    Makes more sense now.......that’s for the explanation.

    I would point out however, that just ‘cos one organisation (our government) ****s us over massively.....it doesn’t make the other organisation (the EU) any less of a **** for ****ing us over as well.
     
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    Except they aren’t/weren’t to anything like the same extent.
     
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    If you say so........
     
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    Just basic economics and facts, mate.
     
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  12. Star of David Bardsley

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    Call me old-fashioned but I don’t really care what Hungarian politicians are up to compared to what’s happening here. Whataboutery and all that.
     
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    When it’s my taxes that go to the said Hungarian politicians through EU funding then I kinda care.....I’m a bit old fashioned in that way and would rather the money get spent on funding over here for the homeless/poor and needy rather than a new Roller for Comrade Morislov........Whataboutery and all that.
     
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    Well we’ve got a whole lot less funding for our homeless and poor to look forward to.
     
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    I thought we gave more to the EU than we got back........sorry, my mistake.
     
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    We also saw enormous net benefits. It’s not a zero sum game.
     
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    Im not a mathematician of course......but I’d say overall we put a lot more in than we got out, even if you include the enormous net benefits you mention.
    Again that’s just my opinion and I stand to be corrected
     
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    I can’t correct you although I’d argue the post doesn’t make sense.

    Only the future will prove whether the likes of Michael Gove and Jacob Rees-Mogg really had our best interests at heart.
     
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    Recklessness is more difficult to prove than negligence because, as you say, it suggests intent and mind-set is difficult to establish. But let's see the evidence of recklessness that the cross-party committee put out. As to the next election, maybe you're right, but remember that Labour under Corbyn was the most pro Russian party ever. He even doubted Russia had a hand in the Skripal poisonings
     
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    Hmm, maybe. Recent press reports are big on interference but details and which way the interference went are not being disclosed
     
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