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If you go to another country then its up to you to abide by their laws, even if you don't know them. We kick off when people from other countries don't abide by own laws for whatever reason so there's a "cake and eat it" situation here. It shouldn't bother you, countries have the right to make their own laws, we cannot dictate to them what they should be or complain if members of our country break them. Tough. :)

Yep. Same as somebody from Germany or Italy can't come here and have sex with a 14 year old.
 
It was all exploitative imo. Which is why Maxwell was key to all of it, as she recruited the vulnerable young women and girls who Epstein and his rich mates then shared around. A photo of a teenage girl smiling as a 41 year old Royal drapes himself around her, doesn’t mean she was either happy or not the victim of exploitation.
Some people are exploited, others make a living out of being exploited. There is a huge difference.
 
And that's the crux of this, the guy needs to go and face the music/answer questions and if he gets charged with a crime stand trial for it.

I absolutely agree. I've no sympathy for the US justice system though as they are the worst country around for not letting other countries bring justice to their members for their wrongs. They are massively hypocritical - that is though a separate issue i grant you.
 
And that's the crux of this, the guy needs to go and face the music/answer questions and if he gets charged with a crime stand trial for it.
There’s more chance of HIAG winning X Factor mate.
 
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Some people are exploited, others make a living out of being exploited. There is a huge difference.

So if I groom a 16 year old on the net and then offer her a bag for a shag, and she says yes, she’s not being exploited, as I’m paying for it?

Really?

No mate.
 
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presumably she was 16 at the point they got married, otherwise I'm pretty sure that's not a legal marriage.

People can go abroad to countries where the age is lower and legally get married and we will recognise the marriage in the UK but if they are below the age of consent they aren't allowed to have sex even though they are married. Of course, no-one is going to actually check. Pregnancy is the usual way people get prosecuted as the evidence is pretty clear.
Nope, she was 15 when married (in Leigh registry office i believe). I think we have the same or similar rule to America where parents consent is accepted.
The Yanks minimum age is 12 and is used frequently but mostly around the bible belt, it can be used in most states though i believe.
 
It's interesting that the anti-Gates brigade, many of whom also tend to be fully signed up Trump supporters, have a massive problem with a guy who donates vast sums of his own money to health programmes around the world. Yet do not seem to have a problem with the guy who stole money from a kids cancer charity, won't disclose his own tax returns, funnels money from campaign donations into his private business interests and pays off porn stars with hush money.
Fake news my friend :bandit:
 
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Did you miss the "some" bit?
I didn’t mate. I just don’t agree. Plenty of sex workers wouldn’t consider themselves to be the victims of exploitation, far from it. However, teenage girls coerced into it by middle aged men, and shared around, not so much. If only there was a phrase that covered that particular kind of shizzle...
 
I’m sorry I was forced to post my last post, but it was necessary to combat the idiocy that I have had to tolerate on this board.
Sorry to rain on your parade but the reason face masks are being made compulsory is not to prevent you from catching it from someone else but to prevent YOU from passing it on to someone else, the exact same reason surgeons wear them when carrying out surgery
You actually destroyed your argument by quoting two different scenarios
For the record I do not want to wear a mask but will under certain circumstances
 
I didn’t mate. I just don’t agree. Plenty of sex workers wouldn’t consider themselves to be the victims of exploitation, far from it. However, teenage girls coerced into it by middle aged men, and shared around, not so much. If only there was a phrase that covered that particular kind of shizzle...
And that's the part we will never know for sure. I'm a cynical bastard and look to see if money can be made out of any story.
 
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