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disagree as you can use control measures on the unemployed , including reducing the benefit , and that is not going to happen with RP * . The real problem is once retired you are retired but each year large numbers move between employment / unemployment depending on the vagaries of the economy .
I'm not sure what your last sentence refers to .
* to prove my point re not removing benefits , though letting them wither on the vine , from pensioners decades ago they gave 5 shillings extra to the few who made it to 80 . We still add 25 pence to RP on the 80th birthday even now
oh and the Christmas bonus was introduced in the 70's and was £10 and still is getting on for 50 years later .
Tobes has just said there is a deficit of circa £4TR. I'm not really sure how we can make it any worse on the pension front
At least give the young some hope of a job. A bored teenager or someone in their youth is a damn sight more liability than a pensioner. Because we will pick up the cost of poverty and then crime due an idol population.
Oh and btw it's not discrimination if men and women retire at 65, but yeah I take your point, I didn't think out the wording of that comment very well
it gets worse when you add in the associated benefits for pensioners plus the care costs the state is picking up as we will not vote for any party who suggests we may need to make our own provision .That's an eye watering figure
We can't afford 3 Million unemployed delivery van drivers and fruit pickers either
The rising deficit is why we are raising the pension ages , We never had a pension fund it has always been paid from general taxation but the sheer numbers are overwhelming the social security finances .Tobes as just said their is a deficit of circa £4TR. I'm not really sure how we can make it any worse on the pension front
At least give the young some hope of a job. A bored teenager or someone in their youth is a damn sight more liability than a pensioner. Because we will pick up the cost of poverty and then crime due an idol population.
Oh and btw it's not discrimination if men and women retire at 65, but yeah I take your point, I didn't think out the wording of that comment very well
I'm off to the gay thread, you're giving me a headache!
One of the few decent things the Tories have done in the last decade was to make workplace pensions with matched contributions a legal requirement. Albeit now at a mere 3% it’s nowhere near currently enough.
we have before as i was one of them - oh and then got a job at the Dept of Stealth & Total Obscurity
I'm sure there is a tunnel somewhere that needs digging, bring back slavery, that will sort the men from the boys
we have before as i was one of them - oh and then got a job at the Dept of Stealth & Total Obscurity
That's funny, never heard it called that before. Used to be called the Nash round our way
Over a hundred billion government borrowing at virtually nil interest rate is a false comfort (although some blessing at the moment). At some point rates will go up and then we're going to get hit again two-fold economically.
We'll end up having to either cut public spending or raising taxes to service the national debt. I don't believe the government has any intention of going down the austerity route again so it looks like higher taxes. Given the choice I'd prefer that.
We'll end up having to either cut public spending or raising taxes to service the national debt. I don't believe the government has any intention of going down the austerity route again so it looks like higher taxes. Given the choice I'd prefer that.
Hs2 to the Orkneys?I'm sure there is a tunnel somewhere that needs digging, bring back slavery, that will sort the men from the boys
Taxes have been extremely favourable for most people tbh. And as demonstrated by the very wealthy, the more you've got, then better your ability to circumvent the tax system.
Something like £119bn missing from the exchequer each year I think at the last count ...
See this man knows what he's talking about ^^^ - you're in charge of it bruv, with the shhite you eat, id have every confidence in you.
I could go on about infrastructure, especially in the North East. I mean, **** me, the A1 up to Edinburgh is ****in single lane in lots of places. We're living in the dark ages up here thanks to the tories not giving a **** 'cos they're never gonna get a vote and Labour not giving a **** because they'll always get a vote. Politician ****s.
There are a lot of public services that'll be needed, and I don't just mean the hospitals, police, schools etc as they are vital ofcourse but also to provide opportunities for youth and unemployed, mental health well-being, social care, community services. It's no longer about political choice, we're going to have to repay the debt and I'd pay a bit more on my taxes to keep those services going.
well taxes will rise but we just have to hope there are enough taxpayers left to pay it .