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I don’t get it Wills ?

It's not 'White lives matter' more 'historical facts matter' . It's permissible for drama to allow black actors to play white characters and for white actors to play black characters but history is history. Provided you don't misrepresent slavery by ignoring its evil it should not upset anyone if you describe historical events which did not have any black participants accurately. It is not necessary because of modern sensitivity to always include a black participant. There is something to be said for that.
 
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It's not 'White lives matter' more 'historical facts matter' . It's permissible for drama to allow black actors to play white characters and for white actors to play black characters but history is history. Provided you don't misrepresent slavery by ignoring its evil it should not upset anyone if you describe historical events which did not have any black participants accurately. It is not necessary because of modern sensitivity to always include a black participant. There is something to be said for that.

I still don’t get Wills laughing face at the Meme (if that’s what it’s called).
Agree with your post btw. Personally I would like more history taught in the schools...both our history and world history. I know there’s not enough time to fit everything in but kids don’t seem to taught enough about British History, imho.
 
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I still don’t get Wills laughing face at the Meme (if that’s what it’s called).
Agree with your post btw. Personally I would like more history taught in the schools...both our history and world history. I know there’s not enough time to fit everything in but kids don’t seem to taught enough about British History, imho.


My children are getting taught British history in school, so are my friends children. It's a bullshit meme to imply an attack on 'Britishness' as otherwise why not just say history? By the sounds of it, like me, you love history and find it fascinating and see it's importance in the curriculum. I copied this from this bloke I used to work with's faceache, the same bloke has never, not once posted about education, history, the importance of history, he does however often post about immigrants and muslims. This is the target audience of the meme.
 
My children are getting taught British history in school, so are my friends children. It's a bullshit meme to imply an attack on 'Britishness' as otherwise why not just say history? By the sounds of it, like me, you love history and find it fascinating and see it's importance in the curriculum. I copied this from this bloke I used to work with's faceache, the same bloke has never, not once posted about education, history, the importance of history, he does however often post about immigrants and muslims. This is the target audience of the meme.

The thing is every country has a dark past in history and has done things which are abhorrent in today's society but were of their era. It's barely more than 200 years since people were hung, drawn and quartered in this country, barbaric punishments were regularly the big crowd entertainment of the masses not just here but across the world. In war or crusades battles were to the death and oppression and slavery were normality virtually everywhere.

The call to remove such detail from history because it offends is ridiculous as only by studying such events can people learn from them, having to apologise on behalf of those we never knew is crazy. It's a fact that more than half the world's population live under oppression or partial oppression but we are getting close to where a 'reverse repression' seems to be taking place where you are shot down just for expressing a different opinion. We can only improve as a society with reasoned and informed debate not a 'witch hunt' of those who may not agree with the mainstream...
 
My children are getting taught British history in school, so are my friends children. It's a bullshit meme to imply an attack on 'Britishness' as otherwise why not just say history? By the sounds of it, like me, you love history and find it fascinating and see it's importance in the curriculum. I copied this from this bloke I used to work with's faceache, the same bloke has never, not once posted about education, history, the importance of history, he does however often post about immigrants and muslims. This is the target audience of the meme.

Are now I get it......yeah agree there is a lot of crap going round like that (and has been for years)......usually from Britain First or some crap like that.
I agree with you, my kids are also taught both kinds of history.....both World and British.......and that’s what sometimes irks me a bit when I see the latest BLM person on TV saying that kids need to be taught black history....’cos they are already. My kids did a whole project on the slave trade and knew more about Mary Seacole than Florence Nightingale......
Just wish there was time in the school day for more history.
 
The thing is every country has a dark past in history and has done things which are abhorrent in today's society but were of their era. It's barely more than 200 years since people were hung, drawn and quartered in this country, barbaric punishments were regularly the big crowd entertainment of the masses not just here but across the world. In war or crusades battles were to the death and oppression and slavery were normality virtually everywhere.

The call to remove such detail from history because it offends is ridiculous as only by studying such events can people learn from them, having to apologise on behalf of those we never knew is crazy. It's a fact that more than half the world's population live under oppression or partial oppression but we are getting close to where a 'reverse repression' seems to be taking place where you are shot down just for expressing a different opinion. We can only improve as a society with reasoned and informed debate not a 'witch hunt' of those who may not agree with the mainstream...

Im confused......has anyone called for any history taught in schools to be removed ? Genuinely haven’t heard of that.
 
Im confused......has anyone called for any history taught in schools to be removed ? Genuinely haven’t heard of that.

Some universities have allowed students who find some subject matter in exams distressing to be excused and not marked down. There has been strong representation from the Students Union to remove certain detail from the core subject matter. It's the first steps to rewrite history as we knew it...
 
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Some universities have allowed students who find some subject matter in exams distressing to be excused and not marked down. There has been strong representation from the Students Union to remove certain detail from the core subject matter. It's the first steps to rewrite history as we knew it...
I always thought that universities were there to promote learning....silly me
 
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