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----HistoryRepeating---- said:
Statistically, death by shark is higher too?

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Its actually quite offensive writing crap like that. There will be a few people on here who know people directly who have been effected by a terrorism act.
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A lightning strike, that kills someone, is a tragedy but non-aggressive and could kill anyone who just happens to be in that place. A person of any age whether black, white, Asian, whatever can be the victim therefore the entire population is at risk.

A terrorist attack, such as this recent stabbing is targeted on a specific group of people. The victims, as is usually the case, were white adults of a particular age range.

The bare statistics may suggest lighting is the greater risk, for white adults, but a tiny bit of common sense suggests otherwise.
 
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Smug in Boots said:
A lightning strike, that kills someone, is a tragedy but non-aggressive and could kill anyone who just happens to be in that place. A person of any age whether black, white, Asian, whatever can be the victim therefore the entire population is at risk.

A terrorist attack, such as this recent stabbing is targeted on a specific group of people. The victims, as usually the case, were white adults of a particular age range.

The bare staitsics may suggest lighting is the greater risk but a tiny bit of common sense suggests otherwise.
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Comparing the 2 events, only one of them is newsworthy (unless somebody famous gets struck)

You cannot say one is more tragic than the other
 
Shameless said:
Comparing the 2 events, only one of them is newsworthy (unless somebody famous gets struck)

You cannot say one is more tragic than the other
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There's nothing wrong with being newsworthy, you seem obsessed with this concept.

Some things are more tragic than others, there are millions of examples but you already know that.
 
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another thing which i noticed the BBC did, when reporting the knife attackers movements, they described how he walked through the park before randomly attacking the group of 'gay' men! I have no idea why their sexuality was important in this instance. Unless they were pre-judging the motive?
 
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HistoryRepeating

"Oh really. Okay then, try this on for size. You have more chance of being hit and killed by a meteorite than dying from a cop kneeling on your neck. So why all the fuss from BLM? Don't know what they are worried about."

<laugh>

OOF!!!!
 
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----HistoryRepeating---- said:
I'm being objective

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Oh really. Okay then, try this on for size. You have more chance of being hit and killed by a meteorite than dying from a cop kneeling on your neck. So why all the fuss from BLM? Don't know what they are worried about..........
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Well your illustration says nothing

What I am pointing out is that risk is exaggerated and any threat, though real, has been overly-exposed by media sensationalism.

During those dark and dreary Brexit days xenophobia was on the rise - this has been linked to the nature of parliamentary language and the reporting by the Tabloid press
 
Porterfield73 said:
another thing which i noticed the BBC did, when reporting the knife attackers movements, they described how he walked through the park before randomly attacking the group of 'gay' men! I have no idea why their sexuality was important in this instance. Unless they were pre-judging the motive?
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I spotted that on the BBC, I wish they would just report the news and leave any agenda to one side.
 
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Shameless said:
What I am pointing out is that risk is exaggerated and any threat, though real, has been overly-exposed by media sensationalism.

During those dark and dreary Brexit days xenophobia was on the rise - this has been linked to the nature of parliamentary language and the reporting by the Tabloid press
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You're totally missing the point.

Theres no actual risk of being attacked by a ghost, on a ghost train or anywhere else, but rational people still get frightened.

It's the fear that knife wielding maniacs might kill you that worries people ....

... not some finite statistical probability.
 
Smug in Boots said:
You're totally missing the point.

Theres no actual risk of being attacked by a ghost, on a ghost train or anywhere else, but rational people still get frightened.

It's the fear that knife wielding maniacs might kill you that worries people ....

... not some finite statistical probability.
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Well that's your point, fine. Planes also crash and here the statistical data may act as a reassurance for those having anxiety about travel. If someone developed a debilitating fear of public urban spaces, they would no doubt be shown that the chance of a violent random attack or injury is minuscule
Shameless said:
During those dark and dreary Brexit days xenophobia was on the rise - this has been linked to the nature of parliamentary language and the reporting by the Tabloid press
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Are you further saying that the media and conduct of the people in the public spotlight don't influence our perceptions, attitudes and behaviour?
 
Shameless said:
Well that's your point, fine. Planes also crash and here the statistical data may act as a reassurance for those having anxiety about travel. If someone developed a debilitating fear of public urban spaces, they would no doubt be shown that the chance of a violent random attack or injury is minuscule

Are you further saying that the media and conduct of the people in the public spotlight don't influence our perceptions, attitudes and behaviour?
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You keep claiming this attack was sensationalised and exaggerated by the media. In reality they reported what happened and have said it was an isolated attacker, not part of a terrorist cell or campaign. The man was arrested and now other stories are on the front page.

The story sounds sensational because it is, regardless of trivia about shark attacks or lightning strikes.

The issue, for me, is about the knife attack. I don't want to enter into an endless discussion about other people's theories about attitudes, perceptions and general media issues.
 
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