Off Topic Bending the knee
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Somebodys pinched my sombrero
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It’s bollocks mate. No blokes life is more important than the next one. The BLM has been hijacked by supremacists and anarchists. Defacing one of our finest prime ministers who guided our country to defeat a facist ffs. They should have turned the water cannons on the lot of the unruly bastards. Boils my blood.
I already agree and have done for decades ...
... do you really think I need people like you to educate me.
FFS, I've probably done more for good causes than you'll ever do in your entire life ...
... bashing a keyboard doesn't mean a thing.
Have you ever served lunch in a homeless shelter on Christmas Day, I have.
Have you stood outside an Irish bar selling poppies for the British Legion, I have.
Have you ever walked 36 miles in 2 days for your church's mental health initiative, I have.
Don't think jumping on a bandwagon makes you anything more than what you are. You've come on here lecturing people about decency then mock a Muslim for his religion.
Give your head a shake and climb down off your pedestal.
One problem I have is that the means of bringing this into the headlights, as bending the knee does, is bound to be counter productive. Those who are biased will have their bigotry reinforced by an act that means subjugation. I will speak up when I am present if racism is evident, I have before. I just think this is the wrong way to achieve change. Change in culture is not achieved by bullying, and I see that in the knee bending fad.
You know every time you post I think 'maybe this is the time he's read my post and has created a respectful and polite rebuttal'
Instead, as usual, it's ad hominem attacks and a self-aggrandising ego-fest about what a great guy you are. You have literally no idea what you're talking about, and some of the things you say are hilariously inaccurate. Suffice to say I have done some of those things, and I have a Muslim family member who I am close to and respect very much.
So um, again, you couldn't be more wrong, not that literally any of it would matter, because none of it would change whether the BLM name is more important to you and others than the actual problems it's trying to solve.
Those who are biased will weasel around any protest. There's always a problem with the method if you don't want to address the core issue.
As for the kneeling, the Kaepernick kneeling is one of the most powerful yet respectful protests in civil rights history, doing it against the wishes of the president, his employers and racist in America who tried to undermine the reasons he protested. Read up on it, it may change your mind.
And you're going to see a lot more of it.
This is what you said, to which I replied, I read your post and responded to it.
Your responses bear absolutely no relation to what people post, it's all endless irrelevant waffle.
"What you're basically saying, smug, is that if they changed the name to stop you being offended, you'd agree with their campaign to stop racial inequality against black people, yes?"
The name doesn't offend me in the slightest and I don't agree with racism. This campaign isn't solely about stopping racial equality and there are aspects I disagree with.
I hope that's clear enough for you to grasp.
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Personally I thought it a good gesture...probably as white folk we do not get it?
If you're bending the knee in 2020, you're doing it out of guilt.
Only two people will ever get that privilege from me, and I don't think I'm getting knighted any time soon.
Only two people will ever get that privilege from me, and I don't think I'm getting knighted any time soon.
And in 2020 99% of people have nothing to be guilty for.
100% nothing. You go get me a liberal activist to talk about white privilege and I'll show you a single parent living on next to nothing in a tower block next door to the so called oppressed black person. We are all in this ****e, together. Just some of us are screwing up the towns statues.
Again, 100% nothing.
Again, 100% nothing.
Somebodys pinched my sombrero
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Green King apologiised today because one of their founders had a plantation in the 1700’s. The 1700’s for ****s sake! And Uncle Bens going the journey? It’s absolutely laughable.
There’s a lot of slavery going on in the diamond mines of Liberia today. Why don’t they concentrate their outrage on current affairs?
And Baden-Powell was a nazi
Its the lefty students who have nothing better to do fueling this ****e, getting everything banned, being offended on behalf of anyone who has a breath in them. The one good thing about this coming recession is these soft twats are going to suffer, when all they are left with is fake outrage and no skills.
Green King apologiised today because one of their founders had a plantation in the 1700’s. The 1700’s for ****s sake! And Uncle Bens going the journey? It’s absolutely laughable.
There’s a lot of slavery going on in the diamond mines of Liberia today. Why don’t they concentrate their outrage on current affairs?
And Baden-Powell was a nazi
Now there is the point I find most difficult to understand about this current protest. There is real slavery going on in many places in the world, yet the protests are about statues and countries that officially oppose any racist acts. I would like to see some proactive demonstrations in these countries to stop such abhorrent practices.
Some people protest in Britain because it's easy, simple as that.
Public transport is good, you get your face on the 10 o'clock news and the police are generally quite tolerant.
'Going to somewhere like Liberia is really really boring yah ...
.... the accommodation is unacceptable, the TV coverage is dreadful and the police don't like white people poking their nose in. Bloody racists the lot of them.'
One of my favourite things about this is how many people say that they accept racism happens against black people and they're 100% against it, but they are very happy to agree with anyone who suggests it's not a problem. They're very quick to suggest the people protesting can't possibly have legitimate reasons for doing so.
I haven't seen anyone on here do that ...
... do you have just one example of all of these 'many people'.
To be truthful, if you're right they're liars and hypocrites.
Name them and shame them I say.
There's a tsunami of misery coming, whether it be mental health issues or financial difficulties, and it does not give a **** whether you are black, white or green. Time knuckle down and stop yapping I'd suggest. But if your main concern right now is some statue of a guy who lived 300 years ago, I'd say you don't need any sympathy from us lot.
Holding up a piece of cardboard in Oxford takes very little effort ...
... volunteering to work with disadvantaged black kids takes loads of effort.
That's why most people choose column A