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TheModestMatt said:
Ok guys here is my strategy - currently p5 with my new driver so pushing for a win or fail.

Starting the race on wet tyres with 86ltrs fuel in hope that the rain stops before the fuel does which I predict to be around lap 25-30, hopefully I can then switch straight to the soft tyres which will last until my final stop. In terms of set up, I am going halfway between dry and wet (q1 and q2). Btw my fuel stints are 86-84-84. Good luck guys. Also thanks again to ben for the great info which helped a lot in q2.
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I was initially thinking the same but there is too much of a chance the rain will stop and start again I think. According to my data the soft tyres will only last for 18 laps on dry so a 2 stopper will be very marginal if it rains for only 25 laps. I'm starting on wets with 75 liters of fuel that should take me 23 laps unless it stops raining before (does the wets last that long?) after that I'm going soft with 80 liters of fuel for 18 laps, twice. This is if I'm lucky and the rain lasts until lap 23, where it stops, which it most probably wont. So well I decided to go 75-80-80-80 just in CASE the weather acts up and you need several stops I don't want to be too heavy or spend to much time re-fueling.

I am going 23% wet:
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------------Dry---Wet---Diff----%-----Sum-----Dry---RACE
Front wing: 341 - 431 = +090 x 0,23 = +20,7 + 341 = 361,7
Rear wing:  341 - 431 = +090 x 0,23 = +20,7 + 341 = 361,7
Engine:     526 - 446 = -080 x 0,23 = -18,4 + 526 = 507,6
Brakes:     686 - 726 = +040 x 0,23 = +09,2 + 686 = 695,2
Gear:       409 - 329 = -080 x 0,23 = -18,4 + 409 = 390,6
Suspension: 642 - 542 = -100 x 0,23 = -23,0 + 642 = 619,0
 
Just qualified and by going by some helpful tips here the wet set ups did look better in Q2. as the rain is only in the early parts of the race im going with my dry Q1 setup and a 2 stop
 
one quick question, how many laps are you guys going to wait to pit when the rain stops because surely it would take around 5 laps to dry out enough to switch tyres, im not sure if the game takes that into consideration though :p.

chrispa76 - interesting strategy, i think the rain tyres last for 25-30 laps going by data from the french gp 2 races ago, but will double check when i get home.

I suppose we could always try tweeting JB, he knows a thing or 2 about mixed conditions lol
 
TheModestMatt said:
one quick question, how many laps are you guys going to wait to pit when the rain stops because surely it would take around 5 laps to dry out enough to switch tyres, im not sure if the game takes that into consideration though :p.

chrispa76 - interesting strategy, i think the rain tyres last for 25-30 laps going by data from the french gp 2 races ago, but will double check when i get home.

I suppose we could always try tweeting JB, he knows a thing or 2 about mixed conditions lol
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The track goes wet to dry straight away and visa versa.
 
Sportydan said:
The track goes wet to dry straight away and visa versa.
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Thanks that's what i thought, glad i didnt change it. Gone for a full wet set up in hope that I build a nice big lead with the rain, risky but worth a shot :) Good luck guys.

...yeah it didnt work out, stopped raining after lap 4, whoops now p19 and falling back. Everyone in the top 5 are cars that started on dry tyres, what a gamble!
 
El_Bando said:
ahh wait... 8 PIT STOPS!!!
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OMG, Fail pit strategy much?
I just watched your race and after lap 18 you pitted on lap 32,40,44,48,52,56
So I guess you forgot to enter the fuel past pitstop 3 where you had it set to 40 fuel and then had it on like 20 fuel for the last 4 stops?

Other than that I think you had decent pace. You only had 2 driver errors unless I missed some? But you have to do something about your Pitstop time, they were slow! My Pitstop training Center is level 10 and despite always fueling 80 liters my pit time was 20 seconds and fastest in my group. Keep your driver I don't think he is bad.


It was a great race for me. As I just started and this being my 2nd race with a very low OA score on my driver and my car levels miles below the others who had 6 races winnings and possible upgrades. I qualified on P12 and ended P11. Mostly because of my setup and strategy that worked out close to as good as it could have. Did 4 stops and held very good pace in the wet but way off pace in the dry (because of my car levels). But I have now after the race upgraded all car parts to level 2 which gives me the car levels 27 27 27. After next race I will also start collecting my first Car character points from my testing sessions that will help to catch up a bit further.


I suggest everyone start using the setup tool on the database site. I have studied it closer and it is very very good. It does more than you could imagine. When you set up normally and the driver is happy and stops reporting, this tool keeps changing the values to find the exact "braking point" of when he is happy. By doing this, it can find the exact perfect setup even if you don't have max TI and EXP. Your "maximum off range" is 135-(exp*0.1+TI*0.3). So lets say that you have 50 EXP and and 100 TI. 50*0.1=5 and 100*0.3 is 30. 135-5-30=100 so your max off range is 100. It means that if for example perfect wing setting is 302, the driver will report it being good from 252-352, so if you hit 345 the driver wont say anything more but you are still way off spot on. So when the driver stops reporting you need to increase with a medium increment until he starts reporting it again. Then you decrease until he stops and by doing this you will narrowing it down until you finally hit the breaking point "352". When you find the breakingpoint you will know for certain that the perfect setup is 302. Now to do all this manually on every single part takes some time but the tool does all parts simultaneously so if you didn't try it yet, do so!

The tool also helps you calculate from dry to wet and vice verso(with other values than in the guide we got form Ben so I don't know which one is more correct), and it does NOT account for the temperature difference, you have to add that manually.
 
ok so my race was a bit of a disaster lol . pitted 8 times i realised just aftr qualifying was closed that i didnt enter a 3rd pitstop for added security incase the rain stopped early and what happen?? it stops on lap 4 lol so by the time i was on slicks the second time round i was on 30 litres and stuck with it lol. (11%). not to worry u live and learn and i picked up a few things. firstly im lucky enough to have most of the frontrunners either gettin 1 point or no points so in that regard i feel ok. i learnt that my driver is a flop, lap times in the wet were dissmal and when i was in the dry he didnt do much either. so my driver of 250 concentration isnt enough to win races. as it turns out looking for 1 major attribute isnt the way to go so ima look for a new driver. i found some good ones going on the fact that concentration, experience and talent is the most important. i know for sure that what im looking for in a driver is on the right path as most of the drivers i looked at has an average of 3 points per race or more. the one im looking at atm who has raced 13 races, won 4 of them, has 6 podiums, 7 fastest laps and an average of 4.6 points a race so ive def got him on my mind atm but will keep looking anyways. looks like i might be trying for either 1 stop with medium tyres or 2 stop with soft tyres tho its real hot will have to see. what is everyone else thinkin?
 
Bittersweet race for me. The rain screwed up my fuel strategy so I had to pit 5 times but I still managed 6th place. However I had pace to challenge for the win and certainly a podium.
 
Thanks chrispa,

My strategy was 85,85,81 and the emergency 20 at the end. but I guess the early weather changes refueld my car up and I was soon running on the 20l stints =/

I didnt know there was a pit stop training! where is that?
 
Mifune
ye i feel ya man. u prob did best of us all but if u pitted 6 times yet still finished sixth i say either ur driver was good or ur strategy was good. what was ur strategy? and what is ur driver stats?
 
Sounds like we all had bad races, mine was destroyed when my driver waited 1 lap to box when it went from wet to dry and 2 laps when i from dry to wet, sooooo much time was lost, and i was stuck on a wet setup. No idea how I managed to finish 12th. Though the guy that won started 23rd which makes me wonder if he just got lucky or knows something we dont because he started on the dry tyres (massive gamble) and had the best race pace all throughout.

Next race will be nice and dry though but with high temperatures, im thinking 2 stops on the medium, no gambles for me this time :)
 
Ok my calculations say medium 2 stops and 81l, 77l, 77l, or Hard 1 stop and 117l, 117l. I am not sure which one too choose but I wouldn't want to go soft because it is a hard to overtake track so less stop should be better.
 
Ben Schulz said:
Mifune
ye i feel ya man. u prob did best of us all but if u pitted 6 times yet still finished sixth i say either ur driver was good or ur strategy was good. what was ur strategy? and what is ur driver stats?
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Strategy was start fuel: 86lt, then two stopper with 85lt both times and a back up pit stop of 50lt. But pitting due to the weather on laps 5, 18 and 30 cut short my stints so I was stuck on the 50lt stints for the rest of the race. I had very good pace, I was the fastest driver in the wet and I was running 1st 2nd and 3rd for parts of the race.

Driver stats are:

Concentration: 137
Talent: 222
Aggressiveness: 0
Experience: 44
Technical insight: 45
Stamina: 5
Charisma: 68
Motivation: 149
 
Mifune
Ye my strategy was similar cept my back up was 20 litres lol so for 20 laps i pitted like 100 times. ur talent is high wich means hed be really good in the wet. ur driver aint bad at all. if he had high experience ud have a really strong driver. when did u sign him?
 
Ben Schulz said:
Mifune
Ye my strategy was similar cept my back up was 20 litres lol so for 20 laps i pitted like 100 times. ur talent is high wich means hed be really good in the wet. ur driver aint bad at all. if he had high experience ud have a really strong driver. when did u sign him?
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At the start of the season. He is only 24 so his experience should increase, however I will lose him at the end of the season if I do not get promoted.
 
El_Bando said:
Thanks chrispa,

My strategy was 85,85,81 and the emergency 20 at the end. but I guess the early weather changes refueld my car up and I was soon running on the 20l stints =/

I didnt know there was a pit stop training! where is that?

Ben Schulz said:
El Bando
go to staff and facilities which is where ur driver traing link is and u can train there
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Just to make it clear, you need to upgrade the building "Pitstop training center" not train the staff. Although training the staff could'nt hurt either if their levels are low.
Staff And Facilities
 
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