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Boris...

  • should completely lock us down immediately and fook up all our Christmas'

    Votes: 3 12.5%

  • let the bodies stack high

    Votes: 13 54.2%

  • lock us down from the 29th to fook up Treble's plans

    Votes: 8 33.3%
  • Total voters
    24
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West WindsR said:
Is it? We have the second-highest excess death rate in the world behind Peru. I don’t think there’s a positive way to spin that unlike a misleading stat about the share of deaths that have occurred in care homes designed to give people something to cling onto.
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Absolutely,
Germany could have 90% care home deaths and our numbers would still dwarf theirs.

It's not like we didn't know Spain had a hurrendous time with care homes with bodies left abandoned in beds. Certainly not something we want to repeat here.
 
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I wonder what you think of the Tory MP who caught a train from London to Darlington whilst knowingly having covid symptoms.

Even Boris went to a second home to recuperate.

The whole lot of them are charlatons that think they are above the law. The difference is one of them is unelected and therefore unaccountable to the electorate.
 
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Anyone want to defend or justify this?

Deaths yesterday across Europe:
Spain 2
Italy 87
Germany 24
France 52
Turkey 28
Belgium 42
Sweden 84
Portugal 14
Ireland 6
Poland 13
Romania 13
Hungary 8
Netherlands 28

UK ... 324
 
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Has anyone suggested, that the deceased numbers, of care home deaths, might be down to the fact, that there aren't that many of them left?

Poor old folk. They deserve better than this.
 
Oh Saffy said:
Is this accurate?

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Percentages are marvellous things ... they can be used to mask most anything ... the actual death numbers are, of course, for more telling:

Scotland 45% of 2,300 = 1,035

England 21% of 34,000 = 7,100

Yea go England ...

Then we get to excess deaths per country per time of year <doh>
 
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Looney Leftie said:
Anyone want to defend or justify this?

Deaths yesterday across Europe:
Spain 2
Italy 87
Germany 24
France 52
Turkey 28
Belgium 42
Sweden 84
Portugal 14
Ireland 6
Poland 13
Romania 13
Hungary 8
Netherlands 28

UK ... 324
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I'm sure the right wing crowd will think thy party did a great job.......see this threads right wingers for proof of that.
 
Looney Leftie said:
Anyone want to defend or justify this?

Deaths yesterday across Europe:
Spain 2
Italy 87
Germany 24
France 52
Turkey 28
Belgium 42
Sweden 84
Portugal 14
Ireland 6
Poland 13
Romania 13
Hungary 8
Netherlands 28

UK ... 324
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If I pick days when the UK had less deaths than some of them will you congratulate the government?
 
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Looney Leftie said:
Anyone want to defend or justify this?

Deaths yesterday across Europe:
Spain 2
Italy 87
Germany 24
France 52
Turkey 28
Belgium 42
Sweden 84
Portugal 14
Ireland 6
Poland 13
Romania 13
Hungary 8
Netherlands 28

UK ... 324
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It would have helped if you had included a link with your numbers.

I'm guessing its the failure by us to have adequate and consistent testing. For example, I looked at graphs from euronews, and the cases in France were well above the UK, but the deaths in France were only a fraction of UK deaths.

https://www.euronews.com/2020/05/29...-breakdown-of-deaths-and-infections-worldwide
 
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brb said:
It would have helped if you had included a link with your numbers.

I'm guessing its the failure by us to have adequate and consistent testing. For example, I looked at graphs from euronews, and the cases in France were well above the UK, but the deaths in France were only a fraction of UK deaths.

https://www.euronews.com/2020/05/29...-breakdown-of-deaths-and-infections-worldwide
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If we'd have got the testing and tracing in place early like some countries, we might have avoided huge infection rates and the subsequent deaths and we also could have probably now be opening up large parts of the country, because it would safe to do so.

I remember when we were all looking at Italy in Feb, aghast at what was unfolding, and thinking that could never happen here. And yet we have performed even worse, despite having a much better healthcare system and more resources.

As it is now, we still have 8000 new infections each day, but the Govt are still pressing ahead with easing the lockdown regardless. Despite some of their own scientific advisers saying it's too soon.
 
PISKIE said:
As it is now, we still have 8000 new infections each day, but the Govt are still pressing ahead with easing the lockdown regardless. Despite some of their own scientific advisers saying it's too soon.
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Where did you get your figure from for 8,000 new infections each day. People keep quoting numbers, but not putting up a link to the information. I looked at that euronews link, and it has only showed that number of infections once, during this crisis. It says on May 28th there was 1,887, so I'm naturally wondering where you are getting that extra 6k from?
 
brb said:
Where did you get your figure from for 8,000 new infections each day. People keep quoting numbers, but not putting up a link to the information. I looked at that euronews link, and it has only showed that number of infections once, during this crisis. It says on May 28th there was 1,887, so I'm naturally wondering where you are getting that extra 6k from?
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Scientist says 8,000 daily coronavirus infections makes relaxing restrictions too risky
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ing-too-fast-to-lift-uk-lockdown-sage-adviser
 
PISKIE said:
Scientist says 8,000 daily coronavirus infections makes relaxing restrictions too risky
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ing-too-fast-to-lift-uk-lockdown-sage-adviser
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It will not let me read it, who are the scientists, and where is the evidence of the figures, beyond the title, and how is that comparing with other countries from the same scientists. I'm just looking for consitent information, because the Guardian's story is well wide of the mark of actual recorded cases, and I assume the media would have been all over it at the briefings, quoting them numbers if it was true.
 
brb said:
It will not let me read it, who are the scientists, and where is the evidence of the figures, beyond the title, and how is that comparing with other countries from the same scientists. I'm just looking for consitent information, because the Guardian's story is well wide of the mark of actual recorded cases, and I assume the media would have been all over it at the briefings, quoting them numbers if it was true.
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The numbers are from the ONS

Three of the government’s scientific advisers on coronavirus have warned Covid-19 ”is spreading too fast to lift lockdown in England”, arguing the rate of infection and number of new cases remains too high, which the ONS places at 8,000 per day.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...hs-boris-johnson-scotland-wales-a9539891.html
 
PISKIE said:
Three of the government’s scientific advisers on coronavirus have warned Covid-19 ”is spreading too fast to lift lockdown in England”, arguing the rate of infection and number of new cases remains too high, which the ONS places at 8,000 per day.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...hs-boris-johnson-scotland-wales-a9539891.html
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Yet there was information from another doctor, scientist what ever he was yesterday, on SKY news and he claimed we should never have been locked down, then it's no wonder why people become confused.
 
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