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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. ELLERS

    ELLERS Well-Known Member

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    So why mention it?
     
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    Because you did - don't you read your own posts?
     
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  3. ELLERS

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    Yes but as you said 'you couldn't give a toss' about Brexit... I am surprised you mention it that's all?
     
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  4. Stroller

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    <laugh> <doh>
     
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    You just can't help yourself can you......zzzzzzzzzzzz
     
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  7. Star of David Bardsley

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    Out of interest are you posting this because you agree with it or to put it up for ridicule?

    Also are you a member of Jennifer Saunders Fans?
     
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    Mate the bloke is a WUM. Dont know why you bother. As soon as he looks like posting reasonable things, he then always goes back to his wumming ways. He is absolutely deluded, theres no other explanation for it.
     
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  9. ELLERS

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    Listen SM I know how this game works on here and I play it. Sometimes Someone gets corrected on something and the minions all join in with the 'likes' and start to mock me. which is okay because some of their track records on this thread are as dodgy as Trumps tan Stroller didn't like the response about the Guardian article and like always, comes out with the usual. "Once again I've fallen for trying to deal with your bizarre twisted logic" The thing is my response was spot on. The Cummings story is/was a non-starter. None of the media is talking about it because it's rubbish. Like with Jezza, Stroller just didn't like being wrong.

    As for you and your original post. Agree people are dying. I don't like it and I am seriously not sticking up for the government because I voted for them. I have said a few times they have done things wrong. Especially allowing flights to still come in from infected countries. That ridiculous 100K test line. However whether you or the 'usual suspects' like it there are other things to consider. Only tonight A top oncologist reckons more people will die of Cancer than Coronavirus due to this lockdown... Not to mention all the other deaths caused by depression/suicides/abuse and other illnesses.
    There are also scientists who believe that this thing was here before Christmas. So the lockdown time may have been irrelevant.
    As I said and will confirm I am not sticking up for anyone. I would rather wait before accusing people... A bit like the Cummings story where people will get egg on their face.
     
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  10. Star of David Bardsley

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    If it somehow stayed dormant for that long and suddenly started spreading rapidly in February/March it would have still made a huge difference to lock down earlier.
     
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  11. Stroller

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    And shoplifting is down.....

    What with all the shops shut and that.

    What a truly bizarre pantomime.

    Mustn't criticise, though.
     
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    Good old Jason Wiliamson - he's never been shy about telling it how it looks from the other side
     
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    He's got a good point.
     
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    Late to the party here, but I don't get the fuss over the Cummings thing. PM's most senior adviser attends a meeting of other people also advising the PM. Is that really what we have an issue with? What am I missing?

    Strikes me as if there could just as easily be a story going round about how "no Minister or senior Number 10" staffer attended the SAGE meeting to hear advice firsthand, and the same people wound up about Cummings would be railing about that.
     
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    Two issues for me. Firstly the potential for Cummings to influence the meeting. People know who he is and the sort of influence he has and thus what he’s capable of if they disagree or make him feel inferior. The bloke has a horrific inferiority complex.

    Secondly if the info gleaned from the meeting is relayed at COBRA (which I think it is, happy to be corrected) and our dear leader is playing tennis or sorting his divorce out that day, he’s not hearing the info first hand from the experts but Cummings’ version of it, at least in theory. Not such an issue necessarily if he’s both bright enough to understand it (debatable) and well-intentioned (not debatable).

    All easily remedied by just publishing the minutes and attendee list but like so many other things we aren’t allowed to know and are expected to take their word for it.
     
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    Still seems OTT to me and based on a dislike of the individuals (which I share) rather than the principle. Each to their own I guess.
     
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    How do you know when people weren't tested?
     
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    Obviously you didn't read my post or ignored it. Here is what a well respected (non-tory supporter) said:
    There is no evidence that Mr Cummings and his colleague were in fact overruling or interfering or behaving badly in those meetings.
    Accept it and admit you were probably wrong
     
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    Oh **** off you apologist for this ****e.

    There’s no evidence because they won’t publish the minutes. The **** didn’t need to be there. He’s the unelected right hand man of the Prime Minister sitting in on a body meant to give totally independent scientific advice.
     
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