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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Sooperhoop, Feb 8, 2020.

  1. Frome-Ranger

    Frome-Ranger Well-Known Member

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    596 Dead see page 4!
     

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    I wouldnt wipe my arse with that!
     
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    UK's coronavirus death toll rises by 450 in lowest increase for two weeks.
    It feels weird saying only 450. :emoticon-0106-cryin
     
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  6. bobmid

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    https://t.co/b5wVj3qbGI?amp=1

    Someone is seriously ****ing up but who?
    While we all sit back and just take this bullshit on a daily basis, more and more die. From the very start this has been nothing less than negligence. Absolutely disgusting that these people are making decisions that are killing more!
     
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  7. YorkshireHoopster

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    Bob,

    The scheme was well -intentioned but basically thought through and put to pen on the back of a cigarette packet. I know that because legal commentators and lobby groups have been asking questions about how the scheme was going to operate for the best part of 5 weeks during which there have been a significant number of changes and differences in guidance between the advice to employers and the advice to employees. There have been at least 4 versions published during which the goalposts have moved quite a bit - in favour of employees you'll be pleased to hear. However there have been some glaring inconsistencies. So let's hope they've learned some lessons in the process now that they are concentrating on the scheme for the self-employed.. If there are omissions and concerns get your reps to raise them. To their credit they have taken many of these on board to date.
     
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    I’m in the haulage industry mate and believe you me if it happens once it happens again and again, and it’s not an unfounded assumption, so unless you work in haulage and know different shhhhhhhhhhhhh
     
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    Another pearler Jeff. Keep it up pal
     
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    Bit of a muddled rant Beth.

    Surely if you are an essential worker, you CAN go to work?
    They said if you can't work from home, you're allowed to go to work whilst observing the social distancing advice as much as possible. What was someone like me to do?
    Who was going to pay my bills while I'm the only one in the household who can still go to work? You?

    The filthy eating habits of the Chinese is partly to blame and there is growing suspicion that the virus originated in the Wohan labs and escaped into the wet markets.
    The Chinese have been trying to cover everything up from the outset.

    I'd prefer it if you would stick to factual, scientific advice, as you did a while back, rather than your constant political points scoring.

    No government of any colour would have faired any better with the totally useless PHE and layers of red tape within the NHS.
    Not to mention the conflicting views of the scientific community.

    Blame lies in a variety of places for the mistakes that have been made.

    When it's all over, hopefully we will be much better prepared for the next pandemic.
     
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    So, in the main, they've done well then.
     
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    Took a fair while though Col, during that time many have lost their jobs. The self employed have to wait even longer with little clarity for the construction sector.
     
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    I completely agree mate.
    I would have preferred a universal payment to all and us self employed have been put to the back of the queue somewhat.

    I'm just a bit fed up with all the constant whining.
    None of this is easy.

    This is unprecedented and an awful lot of mistakes have been made.

    A lot of those mistakes weren't made by politicians imo.
    Unless, following scientific advice is a mistake.
     
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    I actually think Beth's post was spot on.
    It's not about point scoring from a political sense, it's about peoples lives. Some of the decisions made have, in my opinion, attributed to that death toll. It could be poor scientific advice from starting with herd immunity (which now gets denied despite evidence) to the lockdown. Let's be honest, we are not allowed within 2 metres of people yet the experts said that big gatherings like Cheltenham, schools, footy matches, concerts didn't really effect the spread. Now any logical brain can see that mass gatherings and staying 2 metres apart are totally opposite things. These experts need sacking pronto
     
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    No I'm beginning to agree. When I look back in chronological order of the advice given to the government, its drastically changed. Watch next, those face masks for the public that had no scientific benefit will soon be beneficial. Put money on it. £2.50 each way!
     
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    Johnson made a speech in February (someone posted it on here) where he made the case for Britain remaining open whilst the rest of the world shut down. He viewed it as an opportunity. It seems clear to me that the herd immunity approach was designed to support this and that the scientific advisors were bowing to political pressure at this time.
     
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    There seems to be a need to blame this pandemic on China. I believe that it certainly came from there and whether deliberately (and I am reluctant to accept this) or by natural causes (which I do believe can someone explain what will be gained by “proving” it was the fault of the Chinese

    I do not for a moment believe that blaming anyone is going to end the lockdown and bring back the stock markets. If the virus fades by lockdowns, social distancing or vaccine I expect everyone will want to return trade with them immediately.
     
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    Backed up by Cummings "if a few pensioners die, then so be it" comment in that email.

    But, you know who, eh?
     
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    These experts on the briefings are worse than the politicians for evading questions. Just answer the ****ing thing! Or **** off and get someone who will/can
     
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