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Boris...

  • should completely lock us down immediately and fook up all our Christmas'

    Votes: 3 12.5%

  • let the bodies stack high

    Votes: 13 54.2%

  • lock us down from the 29th to fook up Treble's plans

    Votes: 8 33.3%
  • Total voters
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Sweats. said:
Skirted how pathetic your club and fans are? You are an embarrassment. You are basically as embarrassing as math was to us. Have you got special needs?
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Because you used to have such a high opinion of my club/fans? <laugh>
 
aberdude said:
I like your faith but nothing will change...... They just one side of the same coin.
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Ah well, that's like saying you shouldn't bother saying what you believe in or Icke shouldn't say what he believes in because nothing will change.

Whether we agree on wider issues or not one thing we have to do is keep trying. As they say, all it takes for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing.
 
astro said:
Up to the individual players how awkward they want to be about it.

Nike had a contract with Liverpool saying they should start wearing the new shirts from June, but already bypassed all the potential mess by saying they wouldn't hold them to the date but the start of the next season.
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Nope. As you’re forgetting that many clubs will have players on their books who don’t play and they can’t wait to see the back of. No one can force those clubs to continue to pay those players out of contract, and if FIFA decide to move the window to a date beyond July 1st then those players can’t sign for another club, that’s a restriction of trade and therefore illegal.

Nike said it’s sound don’t worry about it, yeah right. Also shirt sponsors btw, as those deals end in June.
 
Tobes said:
Nope. As you’re forgetting that many clubs will have players on their books who don’t play and they can’t wait to see the back of. No one can force those clubs to continue to pay those players out of contract, and if FIFA decide to move the window to a date beyond July 1st then those players can’t sign for another club, that’s a restriction of trade and therefore illegal.

Nike said it’s sound don’t worry about it, yeah right. Also shirt sponsors btw, as those deals end in June.
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All trivial problems compared to voiding a season.

https://www.thisisanfield.com/2020/03/liverpool-will-wear-new-balance-until-end-of-season-not-nike/
 
J๏E.. said:
My lollie came out of ICU today, was rushed into hospital 4am Sunday, she was on oxygen and IV fluids and antibiotics. I have already said no ventilator or resuscitation, it would be pointless if her heart stops through lungs full of ****. Had the last 72 hours from hell, never seen her so poorly, the biggest breath was like a sniff and then a 3/4 second delay till the next. The thing is, neither me, my daughter or the 2 carers we employ are showing zero signs of owt, I have massive angina pain but **** all else. Lollie has had this flu like problem for 9 days now, I put her on antibiotics after day 1 to protect her chest so that has probably saved the day. Can sleep sounder tonight though, York hospital are doing zoom calls so you can talk with your loved ones, just want her home, the IV drips are off now and she doesn't need oxygen no more. She has to have a Covid 19 test again in the morning and if it's negative she should be home on Wednesday. Don't ever let anyone say this **** isn't a real deal, I cried my ****ing eyes out yesterday morning thinking I was losing the lass and the way she was going to go after fighting her Cerebral Palsy condition from birth. She is truly one in a million and an inspiration to all..

Take care lads and dodge the bullet..
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She got home tonight, fully recovered and Coronavirus free.. So good to see her happy face again.. All's good..

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astro said:
How many players does this affect? And how many of them have such a terrible relationship with their club they won't work to sort something out?
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Mate the only thing I responded to is the "fck you" attitude you hold towards other clubs as long as Liverpool get what you want.

It's that above all (not even the fact Liverpool deserve to finish the season) that has turned so many people against your club. That and the underhand tactics LFC used to try to screw their own, then got shamed into backtracking.

Have a nice evening.
 
Tobes said:
They’re not trivial issues, they’re actual issues, you’re just brushing them aside as you’ve got no answer to them.
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I've shown the answer with the Nike example. People come to an arrangement.

How can it be harder to deal with the contract problems of a handful of players rather than something that affects all of them? What happens to performance bonuses most players will have, for example?

Your shirt sponsor example is NOT solved by voiding the league either BTW.
 
Treble said:
A long read but well worth it...

This is an open Letter to Rupert (the ****) Murdoch and Fox News. It was signed by journalists and teachers and university lecturers in journalism across the U.S as well as a pulitzer prize winner...

Americans consistently rate the Fox News Channel as one of the most trusted TV channels. The average age of Fox News viewers is 65. It is well established that this population incurs the greatest risk from the Covid-19 pandemic. In other words, Fox News viewers are at special risk from the coronavirus.

But viewers of Fox News, including the president of the United States, have been regularly subjected to misinformation relayed by the network – false statements downplaying the prevalence of Covid-19 and its harms; misleading recommendations of activities that people should undertake to protect themselves and others, including casual recommendations of untested drugs; false assessments of the value of measures urged upon the public by their elected political leadership and public health authorities.

The misinformation that reaches the Fox News audience is a danger to public health. Indeed, it is not an overstatement to say that your misreporting endangers your own viewers – and not only them, for in a pandemic, individual behavior affects significant numbers of other people as well.

Yet by commission as well as omission – direct, uncontested misinformation as well as failure to report the true dimensions of the crisis – Fox News has been derelict in its duty to provide clear and accurate information about Covid-19. As the virus spread across the world, Fox News hosts and guests minimized the dangers, accusing Democrats and the media of inflating the dangers (in Sean Hannity’s words) to “bludgeon Trump with this new hoax”. Such commentary encouraged Donald Trump to trivialize the threat and helped obstruct national, state and local efforts to limit the coronavirus.

The network’s delinquency was effective. According to a YouGov/Economist poll conducted 15-17 March, Americans who pay the most attention to Fox News are much less likely than others to say they are worried about the coronavirus. A Pew Research poll found that 79% of Fox News viewers surveyed believed the media had exaggerated the risks of the virus. Sixty-three per cent of Fox viewers said they believed the virus posed a minor threat to the health of the country. As recently as Sunday, 22 March, the Fox News host Steve Hilton deplored accurate views of the pandemic, which he attributed to “our ruling class and their TV mouthpieces – whipping up fear over this virus”.

Fox News reporters have done some solid reporting. And the network has recently given some screen time to medical and public health professionals. But Fox News does not clearly distinguish between the authority that should accrue to trained experts, on the one hand, and the authority viewers grant to pundits and politicians for reasons of ideological loyalty. There is a tendency to accept (or reject) them all indiscriminately, for after all, they are talking heads who appear on Fox News, a trusted source of news. When the statements of knowledgeable experts are surrounded by false claims made by pundits and politicians, including the president – claims that are not rebutted by knowledgeable people in real time – the overall effect is to mislead a vulnerable public about risks and harms. Misinformation furthers the reach and the dangers of the pandemic. For example, the day after Tucker Carlson touted a flimsy French study on the use of two drugs to treat Covid-19, Trump touted “very, very encouraging early results” from those drugs, and promoted a third as a possible “game-changer”.

The basic purpose of news organizations is to discover and tell the truth. This is especially necessary, and obvious, amid a public health crisis. Television bears a particular responsibility because even more millions than usual look there for reliable information.

Inexcusably, Fox News has violated elementary canons of journalism. In so doing, it has contributed to the spread of a grave pandemic. Urgently, therefore, in the name of both good journalism and public health, we call upon you to help protect the lives of all Americans – including your elderly viewers – by ensuring that the information you deliver is based on scientific facts.
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Treble said:
A long read but well worth it...

This is an open Letter to Rupert (the ****) Murdoch and Fox News. It was signed by journalists and teachers and university lecturers in journalism across the U.S as well as a pulitzer prize winner...

Americans consistently rate the Fox News Channel as one of the most trusted TV channels. The average age of Fox News viewers is 65. It is well established that this population incurs the greatest risk from the Covid-19 pandemic. In other words, Fox News viewers are at special risk from the coronavirus.

But viewers of Fox News, including the president of the United States, have been regularly subjected to misinformation relayed by the network – false statements downplaying the prevalence of Covid-19 and its harms; misleading recommendations of activities that people should undertake to protect themselves and others, including casual recommendations of untested drugs; false assessments of the value of measures urged upon the public by their elected political leadership and public health authorities.

The misinformation that reaches the Fox News audience is a danger to public health. Indeed, it is not an overstatement to say that your misreporting endangers your own viewers – and not only them, for in a pandemic, individual behavior affects significant numbers of other people as well.

Yet by commission as well as omission – direct, uncontested misinformation as well as failure to report the true dimensions of the crisis – Fox News has been derelict in its duty to provide clear and accurate information about Covid-19. As the virus spread across the world, Fox News hosts and guests minimized the dangers, accusing Democrats and the media of inflating the dangers (in Sean Hannity’s words) to “bludgeon Trump with this new hoax”. Such commentary encouraged Donald Trump to trivialize the threat and helped obstruct national, state and local efforts to limit the coronavirus.

The network’s delinquency was effective. According to a YouGov/Economist poll conducted 15-17 March, Americans who pay the most attention to Fox News are much less likely than others to say they are worried about the coronavirus. A Pew Research poll found that 79% of Fox News viewers surveyed believed the media had exaggerated the risks of the virus. Sixty-three per cent of Fox viewers said they believed the virus posed a minor threat to the health of the country. As recently as Sunday, 22 March, the Fox News host Steve Hilton deplored accurate views of the pandemic, which he attributed to “our ruling class and their TV mouthpieces – whipping up fear over this virus”.

Fox News reporters have done some solid reporting. And the network has recently given some screen time to medical and public health professionals. But Fox News does not clearly distinguish between the authority that should accrue to trained experts, on the one hand, and the authority viewers grant to pundits and politicians for reasons of ideological loyalty. There is a tendency to accept (or reject) them all indiscriminately, for after all, they are talking heads who appear on Fox News, a trusted source of news. When the statements of knowledgeable experts are surrounded by false claims made by pundits and politicians, including the president – claims that are not rebutted by knowledgeable people in real time – the overall effect is to mislead a vulnerable public about risks and harms. Misinformation furthers the reach and the dangers of the pandemic. For example, the day after Tucker Carlson touted a flimsy French study on the use of two drugs to treat Covid-19, Trump touted “very, very encouraging early results” from those drugs, and promoted a third as a possible “game-changer”.

The basic purpose of news organizations is to discover and tell the truth. This is especially necessary, and obvious, amid a public health crisis. Television bears a particular responsibility because even more millions than usual look there for reliable information.

Inexcusably, Fox News has violated elementary canons of journalism. In so doing, it has contributed to the spread of a grave pandemic. Urgently, therefore, in the name of both good journalism and public health, we call upon you to help protect the lives of all Americans – including your elderly viewers – by ensuring that the information you deliver is based on scientific facts.
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Tel said:
Happy to hear Boris is out of intensive care, never nice to see our PM struggling.

Also, not wanting to go into politics too much... Kier Starmer has been brilliant in his first few days, I can see a bright future for the Labour Party under his leadership.
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thank god they didnt go with a woman
 
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