Liverpool place some non-playing staff on furlough
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Agree 100%. If we mirror this I’m done with PL football.
The PFA using noddy numbers on taxation and the contribution thereof to the NHS to try and justify their greed is utterly shameful.
It’s akin to me furloughing my entire workforce, but telling the staff that the senior management team and I will continue to take our full wage, as we pay more tax than you plebs, so we’re acting for the greater good. How altruistic.
Agree 100%. If we mirror this I’m done with PL football.
The PFA using noddy numbers on taxation and the contribution thereof to the NHS to try and justify their greed is utterly shameful.
It’s akin to me furloughing my entire workforce, but telling the staff that the senior management team and I will continue to take our full wage, as we pay more tax than you plebs, so we’re acting for the greater good. How altruistic.
Everything youve said has been spot on. People defending their clubs are laughable, and the PFA make me sick.
Its more expensive than ever to go watch a match, TV companies have a complete strangle hold on the sport and now they cant even be arsed paying staff.
Agree 100%. If we mirror this I’m done with PL football.
The PFA using noddy numbers on taxation and the contribution thereof to the NHS to try and justify their greed is utterly shameful.
It’s akin to me furloughing my entire workforce, but telling the staff that the senior management team and I will continue to take our full wage, as we pay more tax than you plebs, so we’re acting for the greater good. How altruistic.
Seen my hometown and adopted hometown screwed over in the past.
I have four colleagues ‘furloughed’ as they can’t work from home but are either requiring 12 week isolation or are caring for someone who had to isolate/at risk. This is what the scheme is for and they are being topped up/ full pension contributions while away.
Planned short working for when orders drop in Q4 are across the board, not based on wage/ level in company.
Clear that was a PR stunt to try and offset the shame this story will cause
MPs calling for players to take a pay cut, maybe those MPs should lead by example...
At the very least, all club earners ( I include management, leaders, chairpersons, CEOs, etc in that, not just players) over a certain amount could have donated 1% of their salaries to a 'pot' and redistributed that to everyone else at the club. 1% is laughable for them. Same outgoing salary, no one out of a job and no one needing to be bailed out by the governement which'll cause us problems down the line. Yay for more austerity and a much longer one at that)
I recall Virgin offering furlough to their employees too despite being owned by one of the UK's richest people. These business owners (football included sadly) are so out of touch with the real world and separated from the normal person going day to day. They care so much about their finance and fortune and zero about anyone else. Footballers come in to this due to the insane wages they receive meaning that being out of work, receiving 80% salary and thus being scared about bills and finances are beyond their understanding. Those people who'll happily fork out £50 a game, buy a shirt and pay for sky are suddenly faced with debt and no football to get them through whilst looking at their idols and wondering why they still receive 100k+ a frigging week to do nothing. Their salaries are so intrinsically linked to the average worker that it will naturally put them in the spot light.
From reading around comments here and the news, I'm not entirely certain that a 30% cut is the best choice. The tax thing is a very handy defense tool to use for them and kind of true. But something should definitely be arranged after they've received their wages - taxes still get paid. 30% is also far too low. I'm sorry, but in a time where you can't even leave the damn house, why does anyone need 70k a week still (down from 100k) when those who normally contribute to that (us) aren't doing so? I know it's a big drop for them, but wake up. 70k in one week is still more than the NHS workers will earn in 4 years.
Really disappointing, especially as a Liverpool fan, to see the greed still existing.
I recall Virgin offering furlough to their employees too despite being owned by one of the UK's richest people. These business owners (football included sadly) are so out of touch with the real world and separated from the normal person going day to day. They care so much about their finance and fortune and zero about anyone else. Footballers come in to this due to the insane wages they receive meaning that being out of work, receiving 80% salary and thus being scared about bills and finances are beyond their understanding. Those people who'll happily fork out £50 a game, buy a shirt and pay for sky are suddenly faced with debt and no football to get them through whilst looking at their idols and wondering why they still receive 100k+ a frigging week to do nothing. Their salaries are so intrinsically linked to the average worker that it will naturally put them in the spot light.
From reading around comments here and the news, I'm not entirely certain that a 30% cut is the best choice. The tax thing is a very handy defense tool to use for them and kind of true. But something should definitely be arranged after they've received their wages - taxes still get paid. 30% is also far too low. I'm sorry, but in a time where you can't even leave the damn house, why does anyone need 70k a week still (down from 100k) when those who normally contribute to that (us) aren't doing so? I know it's a big drop for them, but wake up. 70k in one week is still more than the NHS workers will earn in 4 years.
Really disappointing, especially as a Liverpool fan, to see the greed still existing.
Why not just increase the tax on all rich people?
Oh right, the Tories only hate "new money" footballers who don't donate to them.
FEG not in touch with Liverpool’s socialist roots.
European football royalty, had players take wage cuts/deferrals and donate to hospitals. Liverpool follow Mike ****ing Ashley and take, placing more Austerity in the future on a city kicked in the bollocks by the Tory party in the past.
nothing to do with what footballers earn, it’s that those at the bottom, the people the club it thinks it’s routed to, that they call part of the LFC family are the first to be kicked.
Spurs, Newcastle, Liverpool, Norwich....can all go and **** off.
staff at Bury, they were in trouble and were left high and dry.
Hold on a second. Newcastle were first not second to do this.
We don’t win first place for many things but we did on this so don’t start giving it to Spurs.
We genuinely have the worst Owner of any PL Club and no-one but no-one is going to take that off us.
If the players take a 30% pay cut the only beneficiaries are the clubs who save 30% of the players wage cost. If the players earn less they will obviously pay less tax. Better scenario would be the players get their full wage, the government have no reduction in tax take, and then the players give some of their taxed earnings to a good cause to help the fight against the virus. This might be the NHS or it could be foodbanks, or other community charities.
If the club needs the players to take a pay cut so they can afford to pay non-playing staff without furloughing them, or to survive as a club then the players should be taking a pay cut. After that they can pay tax and after that they can contribute to some good causes, preferably starting with helping lower league clubs.
Hold on a second. Newcastle were first not second to do this.
We don’t win first place for many things but we did on this so don’t start giving it to Spurs.
We genuinely have the worst Owner of any PL Club and no-one but no-one is going to take that off us.
Sorry pal, thought spurs beat you to it.
Tbf Rooney has been talking a lot of sense imho recently
Seems aligned with what quite a few have been saying on here
Scary times.....
I said right at the start I am disappointed but as usual people are using it as a club v club debate
I am just as disappointed in the company I work for.
Rooney was the one who said that we should be using this as a break in football to align the next two seasons to the WC in Quatar
One of the reasons why i'm disillusioned about top flight football now. It's unfair to scapegoat the players, even though they are being paid obscene amounts of money, but it's the entire Capitalist model that is hugely flawed. There is nothing wrong with making money, but when you have a massive and ridiculous gap between the bottom and the top, this is what i have a problem with. It's the hardcore fans, that have just about a pot to piss in, will be the ones that will feel the pain of this period and afterwards, when the dust settles. We are witnessing the biggest bailout in human history at the moment, and it'll be the bottom lot that will be paying off the huge debits for many years to come. The money won't be going on services but will be paid to the very rich, financial markets and the banks again. The US and the Conservatives don't believe in socialism, but they sure as well believe it for the very rich and corporations. Just watch while the mega corporations like Boeing will get billions and billions to bail them out because they are too big to fail, AGAIN. Crony capitalism is destroying us.
Tbf Rooney has been talking a lot of sense imho recently
Seems aligned with what quite a few have been saying on here
Scary times.....
I said right at the start I am disappointed but as usual people are using it as a club v club debate
I am just as disappointed in the company I work for.
Rooney was the one who said that we should be using this as a break in football to align the next two seasons to the WC in Quatar
I was surprised too to hear Rooney speak so lucidly. Makes some very good points.