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I'd have said it's the clubs who have caused this debate (well, four clubs - so far), rather than the players.
Yes the players are earning obscene amounts of money. But they didn't choose to furlough their lowest paid employees; an act of asking the government, and ultimately us as the taxpayer, for financial assistance, in preference to making a small dent against the millions of pounds which they turnover each year.
I said on here a few days ago that I expected the floodgates to open amongst PL clubs, after Newcastle and Spurs both took the plunge. But the media negativity since has given me some hope that the remaining clubs will continue to think twice. If for no other reason than to avoid a full-blown PR disaster.
Yes the players are earning obscene amounts of money. But they didn't choose to furlough their lowest paid employees; an act of asking the government, and ultimately us as the taxpayer, for financial assistance, in preference to making a small dent against the millions of pounds which they turnover each year.
I said on here a few days ago that I expected the floodgates to open amongst PL clubs, after Newcastle and Spurs both took the plunge. But the media negativity since has given me some hope that the remaining clubs will continue to think twice. If for no other reason than to avoid a full-blown PR disaster.
I know the names of Richard Branson, Mike Ashley, and Tim Spoon-Faced-Slob. I consider them more deserving targets of my ire than most football players tbh.
Most football players have, from a very young age, been cocooned away from the real world because of their talents. Most are still kids. I'd like to see then behave better, but I can cut them some slack; they didn't make the world what it is, they just lucked out because of their mostly god given abilities.
His dig was at club owners, between the 20 of them they are worth an estimated £80 billion, so why are they not covering their staffs wages.
Spot on. This is Levy's greed that has brought this about. A lot of Footballers have already started doing things in their communities, a lot of them really do care of how they are perceived. The majority of this country's 2.5 millionaires actually don't care as they are safely wrapped in a protective bubble. So lets not just pick on the footballers because of where the spot light has landed.
Save your annoyance for everyone who is not doing enough.
The last sentence is spot on.
If Matt Hancock, and all the other cabinet ministers, including Johnson, give up their ministerial income and revert back to living on their MP salary alone (a mere £82k from the start of this month), then they can criticise others.
On a side note, I have read that the first team squads at Barcelona and Atletico Madrid are taking a 70% wage cut and Juventus players have agreed a wage freeze for 4 months.
Well I agree with that. Not sure why he mentioned Schlupp's name then.
The original debate on here was about Prem footballer's doing nothing to help the public during this crisis.
Whether it is billionaire businessman, or Prem footballers - they are all disgustingly rich. But the difference for me, is that it isn't just about the financial side of things. The footballers share an emotional attachment to the British public that the businessmen don't.
Wayne Rooney was captain of England. Surely with that comes some sort of responsibility to do what's right, and lead by example. All he has done since all this sh1t started was immediately complain that he and his fellow professionals were being treated like 'guinea pigs' (boo-f*cking-hoo Wayne). He hasn't once come out and offered even words of support. He is worth an estimated £150m by the way. Can't even say well done to the NHS or anything like that.
He has tweeted his thanks to the hospitals and charities. I am pretty sure he will have donated or will donate at some point.
As someone said, most footballers are normal people that want to help. They are just an easy target.
In the grand scheme of things, they really are just tiny fish in a huge, stinking, filthy rich pond.
I wonder how much Rees-Mogg will donate from his fortune? Or Boris? I wonder why Branson has chosen not to help his staff? Why is Levy allowed to use the furlough scheme in the first place? How is a company like BA, allowed to rinse the furlough scheme after paying bonuses and making record profits?
I wonder why people voted for a government which cheered when they lowered wages for NHS nurses?
This whole clap thing makes me embarrassed/angry every time Iisten to it. I want to be happy at the unity, but where was the unity for the NHS in normal times?
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I walked to my local coop, this morning, to get bread and milk - essentials in my household.
I took the usual precautions, which in my case is to walk on the outside of the kerb, facing oncoming traffic so that should I meet someone walking the other way, I could step into the road to maintain a safe distance.
At one point a woman was walking towards me and, to my absolute disgust, she unloaded the contents of her nasal passages all over the pavement. WTF.
I hate seeing that on the football pitch, so seeing it done in a public place just turned my stomach. And at a time like this
I took the usual precautions, which in my case is to walk on the outside of the kerb, facing oncoming traffic so that should I meet someone walking the other way, I could step into the road to maintain a safe distance.
At one point a woman was walking towards me and, to my absolute disgust, she unloaded the contents of her nasal passages all over the pavement. WTF.
I hate seeing that on the football pitch, so seeing it done in a public place just turned my stomach. And at a time like this
They are called the stinking rich because their motives and greed stinks.
They are called the stinking rich, because behind every great fortune there is an even greater crime
ihatemyselfandwanttodie
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And if none of these people built up companies, who would employ the people?
I think there needs to be a little balance and give and take to these arguments.
Some of us on here (not suggesting you Archers btw) almost seemingly want to move to a Quaker movement. And the reality is you would all end up moaning on an internet forum for the ****ing Amish complaining that your skills are better than someone else's skills and that you should be earning more than them.
This is a fair point.
I've always believed that money amplifies the person you already are.
So aresholes that become rich, are able to be bigger arseholes.
We do have to be careful to keep attracting businesses to operate. However, the pendulum has swung so far towards the rich in this late stage capitalism, that they are treated as a separate, untouchable class.
A little bit of balance needs to be installed, somewhere. It's for more intelligent minds than mine to work out how we do it. But 1% of people having more than 50% combined isnt right. Plus the wealth gap is still increasing.
Furlough restrictions are that you have to be on the payroll as of 28 February to get the 80%. I started my new job on 2 March, therefore I’m not eligible, brilliant.
And I did say a couple of days ago that we must not discuss political issues on this thread, tempting as it is.
Please use this thread for news and debate about the virus and the people working to fight it. Use the Politics Thread for all the other stuff.
Please use this thread for news and debate about the virus and the people working to fight it. Use the Politics Thread for all the other stuff.
ihatemyselfandwanttodie
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Had a phone call today to sort out my self employment entitlements etc etc... Have to say the guy on the phone was actually spot on. Was expecting some arogant little hitler type prick like many of them are, thinking he was the dogs nuts with his little bit of power. Turns out he only lived round the corner from me so we struck up a bit of common ground and got chatting inbetween him typing my details. Said he hadn't stopped since 9am and I was like his 15th call already today, doing the same thing non stop, same questions, same everything. Not just the NHS workers busting their bollocks off at this time.