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Fosse and his bezzie back in the day
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I think the threat was balanced against the cost and effort and deemed not important enough for the extra money in the budget, it would require a lot more money than just the NHS funding for spare equipment ect. This question would be before every government of the last 20 years at least, as international travel and connectivity has boomed in that time. Can gets kicked down the road, isn't that how we do it these days, just service the debt, borrow if we need and some distant relative can pay it back. After all, a Pandemic would not really happen would it, WOULD IT?
You kinda wonder who the **** actually personally pulls in the profit from these loans, I fookin do
You’re conflating the actions of those who do the doing, with the error of those who should have been steering the strategy.
I have no doubt that those involved in the supply chains and within the service itself are working as hard as they can to plug the gaps, and they deserve nothing but respect.
However, when my daughter, who is now front line on a COVID ward and is ringing me in tears frightened, as she knows the PPE she’s been given is inadequate and leaves her at high risk of serious contagion, then pardon me for being somewhat critical of those who should have been proactive 2 months ago, that would have ensured we were prepared today.
Well I can see you dont care about the staffs welfare!
You just know better then and dont give a flying one .
I'll get in touch with her tommorrow and tell her to shut the **** up then shall I?
By all means say there should have been action earlier. The entire world will be saying the same thing when this is over.
There are layers upon layers of people at all levels within many organisations in every country who will wish they had acted sooner.
But when the reality started to hit home people have acted as well as they can. Government are in constant contact over this with senior figures in nhs England, public health England, universities and the scientists.
It’s ****. It would have been great if we acted sooner. It would have been great if most countries in the world acted sooner. That’s easy to say with hindsight though. And what we are seeing now and have been seeing since the reality of this set in is incredible hard work and action across the board from government, the NHS senior figures, NHS frontline staff etc...
As I said - clueless ****.
I can both care about the welfare of frontline staff and be able to see the bigger picture of the huge effort that is going in to providing the best environment and equipment for those staff.
I’m not blinded by the emotion of feeling bad for doctors and nurses. I feel for them massively, I have family doing those jobs, but I also am capable of evaluating the bigger picture and am in a fairly unique position of seeing the inner workings of the response to this situation and so I know first hand how hard people are working and the mammoth task they face in trying to deal with this and provide the support the frontline staff need.
Arrogant ****ing prick !
Who the **** are you to play down frontline workers concerns ?
Your point would have merit if it wasn’t for the time lag between the first appearance of this disease elsewhere, and it’s arrival here.
Saying that people didn’t see it coming within the service, is quite frankly bollocks. I was told by a senior consultant who’s also a University professor, back in early Feb, that this virus would likely reach its peak in the U.K. around the end of April. The fact that either the senior management and the Govt itself chose to not prepare adequately given the timescale they had at their disposal is a failure, pure and simple.
Like I said, you’re a clueless **** blinded by the emotional argument which stops you even attempting to look at the bigger picture or give a **** about all the other people who are working their arses of to try and help the country deal with this situation.
Yes and you know it all dont you ?
You're the supply expert and will defend your precious party at all costs .
@luvgonzo i might be the first to crack, the level of stupid is getting too high for me
You can’t see over your own imbecility? Try standing on a chair
In February the response started to take shape. No disagreement from me there. But the monumental shift from what the nhs was doing before and what it is doing now and preparing for now is colossal. There is no magic wand to immediately deal with all of the issues that were going to occur across such a huge organisation.
There were always going to be mistakes. There were always going to be failings. But the overall response and the impact that will make in dealing with this is something we should be proud of as a country. Not be looking for who to blame for everything not going to plan, or for not having the perfect plan.
And there is the flaw in your argument. You think you’re arguing against the tories but the reality is your slating the nhs but you’re too stupid to realise it.
I have no interest in supporting one party or another in this. It’s bigger than that. And if you can’t see that you’re an idiot.
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