Coronavirus

... actually that's not a bad lead in ... one of my mates (second from left) sent me this today ...VIllamoura Portugal 1984 ... we thought we were indestructible... we are now all pretty decrepit...

 

my favourite was from mine was (obviously this is a very shortened version)
Mum "then we met Frank - you remember Frank dont you"
Me "no should i ?"
" oh yes he was such a character with a lovely head of brown hair ... or was it black "
"yeah whatever but why should i remember him ? "
" he had that bright green door you couldn't miss it "
"err where was this house "
"New Road obviously" said in a patronising tone
"when was this as i don't ever remember living there"
"late 50's"
"FFS Mum i wasn't born then"
"oh when were you born"
"bye Mum"

 

My last girlfriend used to say that to me too.

 

Lots of touching in that pic bro.

 

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Rugby player second from left ..
It's compulsory... apparently

 

Pictured you as taller tbf Babs

 

Ok so **** off the people who are dedicating their lives to protecting all the stupid ****s in this country. Guess what, it’s not just the doctors and nurses who make the nhs function.

Anyone who has had political discussion with me on this forum knows I’m not left wing, I don’t through ideology back the nhs without criticism (particularly in relation to management and efficiency) I’ve argued with people that the nhs isn’t being privatised etc...But the reality of this situation is that throughout the upper echelons of the NHS they are acting in an incredible way to combat coronavirus.

It’s all well and good feeling bad for the frontline staff, I get how easy it is to feel emotive towards the hardship they face. But behind that is a huge organisation working in a way it’s never had to before to deliver results on shorter timescales than its ever had to. They are working ridiculously hard and I can assure you they are doing an amazing job.

Guess what? No country in the world has had pandemic contingency in place well enough to deal with this. It isn’t the governments fault, it isn’t the NHS fault, it’s a situation that has occurred which is **** for everyone, really difficult to deal with, and people of all levels are doing their best.

Blaming the government for the nhs struggling to cope with something that the entire world is struggling with is ****ing ******ed. Especially in relation to PPE which is dealt with by the nhs, not any minister in government.

But because it suits the narrative of certain individuals to blame the government for things they don’t have direct control over, people will continue to do so. It’s ducking stupid.

 

You’re ****ing clueless mate.

 

@luvgonzo i might be the first to crack, the level of stupid is getting too high for me

 

let me help you

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You’re right, aside from the last bit imo. We knew in January that this was heading our way, and could see the reality of what was happening in China. At that point the Govt should have acted and had the foresight to instruct the stockpiling of PPE and to have started the process of increasing our ventilator capacity.

Throughout this nightmare we’ve had the benefit of seeing what was coming, but the action of Govt appears to have been largely reactive as we’ve landed in the midst of it, as opposed to being proactive beforehand. It’s as if we were in denial for weeks and weeks, until the penny finally dropped that our experience would be the same as we’d seen elsewhere.

 

Diego’s just logged in so it’s about to get much higher. Maybe you should take a break for a few hours.

 

Trump’s on stage. I can livestream if anyone wants...?

 

I have been "logged in" since about 4.45, try to keep up plank

 

@Tel

 

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I understand that viewpoint and the government maybe should have acted quicker, but the top people within the nhs weren’t pushing for a quicker reaction either.

Like myself, as I’ve openly admitted the scale of this was beyond what I expected, the top figures in government and within health have been caught out by this.

There’s no denying the initial response was to assume this would be similar to other recent outbreaks, particularly because of the figures coming from China. But that in reality it’s escalated at a rate people didn’t realise it would or could until Italy started to be hit badly.

You could have asked most doctors, senior health officials within the nhs or ministers in government and they would all say that early on they underestimated the situation.

But since then the response should make us all feel proud. I know people will look to blame the government and will question how soon social distancing measures should have been enacted, but if we look purely at the health response to this it’s been phenomenal. And that includes dealing with PPE.

It’s easy to be pissed off because things haven’t all gone to plan but behind this are people working their arses off to deliver the PPE frontline staff need. From suppliers, delivery, NHS management and individual hospitals/health centres/etc...

Tbh I think it’s totally out of order to be looking to blame people for the PPE situation.