Off Topic Coronavirus

[kiwiqpr]

Sorry to hear about your uncle uber
All the best

 

[kiwiqpr]

Something that's been niggling away at me since reading finglas's post about Ireland send out a flight to get medical supplies from ... China?

The Netherlands has apparently already sent back six hundred thousand defective face masks to China

 

[QPR999]

The Netherlands has apparently already sent back six hundred thousand defective face masks to China

Sauce?

 

[QPR999]

This ( IMO obviously ) is a good and thought-provoking article ...

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...rus-has-exposed-a-desperate-need-for-localism

 

[kiwiqpr]

• 9s
• I was trying to find the story where the Netherlands would be in lockdown until June after I think woody posted the claim

Put Netherlands into Google and it was the first result under news
Never actually read the story as I was looking for the June story which I couldn't find but that was the headline
600000 masks to be returned

 

[mapleranger]

I am, as usual, coming along late but that said, I am very sorry to hear about your uncle, Uber

 

[SW Ranger]

Just been given the news that my late father’s last surviving sibling, my uncle, is on a ventilator with the coronavirus, possibly contracted whilst in hospital dealing with existing old-age ailments. He’s in his mid-70s***

Obviously my aunt can’t even visit because of both the risk and restrictions. He’s already been asked if he wants to be resuscitated should his condition worsen.

****, innit?

[***correction: he’s 79]

Sorry to hear about your uncle Uber. Hope he fights through this.

 

[QPR999]

• 9s
• I was trying to find the story where the Netherlands would be in lockdown until June after I think woody posted the claim

Put Netherlands into Google and it was the first result under news
Never actually read the story as I was looking for the June story which I couldn't find but that was the headline
600000 masks to be returned

You can't post that and then put the onus on me kiwi. I'm really busy doing, doing, doing ... exercises ( in case woody is watching )

 

[Uber_Hoop]

It did irk me that it jumped to Europe and the West rather quickly whilst the host nation remained relatively unscathed.

Meanwhile, some thirteen thousand miles from Wuhan, Mrs Nines mate was pulled over by the police this afternoon. When asked why she was out driving in the current climate, she replied taking the dog for a walk. They reliably informed her that this isn't allowed and that she had to return home.

I’m lucky that I’m barely 100m from pine woodland and can very quickly take Fido off the lead and he can do his thang whilst I contemplate life, the universe and everything. usually without seeing another soul from a few miles. But I imagine for some folk they need to drive a distance to get to places where that’s possible. It’s no fun having Fido on a leash walking around pavements in built up areas. The rozzers are overstepping their authority if you ask me. Forgetting they’re servants of the people, methinks.

 

[QPR999]

I’m lucky that I’m barely 100m from pine woodland and can very quickly take Fido off the lead and he can do his thang whilst I contemplate life, the universe and everything. usually without seeing another soul from a few miles. But I imagine for some folk they need to drive a distance to get to places where that’s possible. It’s no fun having Fido on a leash walking around pavements in built up areas. The rozzers are overstepping their authority if you ask me. Forgetting they’re servants of the people, methinks.

I can walk to take Otis to the local park but there are quite a few dog walkers there at the same time. I prefer to take him to the woods where you don't see anyone, and that's even before this stuff started. By driving him to somewhere more remote I'm doing this pandemic a service.

I think the rozzers are making a lot of this **** up on the hoof and should be told to **** off. If you're in your car and not interfering with anyone, it doesn't matter if you drive one mile or a hundred. You're still following the guidelines. In the future, I shall have some medicine with me and tell them that I have to deliver it to an elderly relative. Either that or tell them that I'm off to prayers at my local mosque. That should ward them off.

 

[QPR999]

I can walk to take Otis to the local park but there are quite a few dog walkers there at the same time. I prefer to take him to the woods where you don't see anyone, and that's even before this stuff started. By driving him to somewhere more remote I'm doing this pandemic a service.

I think the rozzers are making a lot of this **** up on the hoof and should be told to **** off. If you're in your car and not interfering with anyone, it doesn't matter if you drive one mile or a hundred. You're still following the guidelines. In the future, I shall have some medicine with me and tell them that I have to deliver it to an elderly relative. Either that or tell them that I'm off to prayers at my local mosque. That should ward them off.

It also gives me a chance to keep the Honda's engine-turned over as it's only used to take the dog for a walk these days. ( 20 years old, bless her )

 

[Staines R's]

I can walk to take Otis to the local park but there are quite a few dog walkers there at the same time. I prefer to take him to the woods where you don't see anyone, and that's even before this stuff started. By driving him to somewhere more remote I'm doing this pandemic a service.

I think the rozzers are making a lot of this **** up on the hoof and should be told to **** off. If you're in your car and not interfering with anyone, it doesn't matter if you drive one mile or a hundred. You're still following the guidelines. In the future, I shall have some medicine with me and tell them that I have to deliver it to an elderly relative. Either that or tell them that I'm off to prayers at my local mosque. That should ward them off.

What force is that 9’s ? Surrey ? Spoke to my lad again today and he says he’s heard nothing about what he is expected to do with regards to stopping anyone out driving without a valid reason.....says he’s too busy with house searches and missing person enquiries (plus a stabbing that happened locally)
I tend to agree, many of the so called ‘jobsworth’ brigade may be taking their authority a tad too far.

 

[Sooperhoop]

Costco US are advertising that they will not accept returns on toilet paper, kitchen roll, hand sanitizer, water and Lysol (Dettol), a sure sign that there are no supply chain shortages of these things, and that the twats who have filled their houses with this stuff will have to work through it over the next few years.

I am still pondering the full importance of the 50% death rate for those ventilated. If this is maintained it’s huge for resource use and rationing.

We need a medicine treatment rapidly.

The deputy CMO saying we could be doing this for 6 months is a good thing - should really focus minds as to what the strategy should be. I reckon we will stick to this for 12 weeks and then relax for political and economic reasons.

Very strong rumours that the Chinese are trying to sell us PPE at massively inflated prices. We should buy it because we need it, and then cooperate with everyone else who has been shafted by these ****ers to make the lives of Xi and his cronies as miserable as possible. Nothing against the Chinese people, but the totalitarian tossers who boss them around need sorting.

A long disconnected ramble, but anyone else hoping that we take an individual, community, and societal/national/supra national level rethink of what is really important to us after the crisis is past? It would be a real tragedy if we just go back to where we were before, with no thought as to how we plan for these things in the future, without learning anything, without understanding how fragile the systems we have are, without recognising how connected we are as individuals and communities.

I think the one certainty to come out of this is that there is no way we will ever return to the 'normal' as was. Hopefully the outcome will have a sobering effect on society who will see many people they love pass away in a way none of us ever envisaged happening and, perhaps, a generation that has been very much 'me me me' will actually realise the bigger picture...

 

[Stroller]

I’m lucky that I’m barely 100m from pine woodland and can very quickly take Fido off the lead and he can do his thang whilst I contemplate life, the universe and everything. usually without seeing another soul from a few miles. But I imagine for some folk they need to drive a distance to get to places where that’s possible. It’s no fun having Fido on a leash walking around pavements in built up areas. The rozzers are overstepping their authority if you ask me. Forgetting they’re servants of the people, methinks.

There are six of us in my household, four of whom are trying to work from home. The other two are 6 years and 16 months old respectively, which makes the working environment a little difficult. We're blessed though, in that we have a garden out the back and woods across the road and it's spring. How anyone is expected to cope with young children if they're banged up in a block of flats and they've closed the parks, I just can't imagine. **** the rules, people have to get out in the air. I heard someone on a phone-in ask if, having taken their children out for a walk, they were still allowed to go for a run themselves. Yes you ****ing are.

 

[QPR999]

What force is that 9’s ? Surrey ? Spoke to my lad again today and he says he’s heard nothing about what he is expected to do with regards to stopping anyone out driving without a valid reason.....says he’s too busy with house searches and missing person enquiries (plus a stabbing that happened locally)
I tend to agree, many of the so called ‘jobsworth’ brigade may be taking their authority a tad too far.

That's good to hear Stainsey, It's bang on the borders with the Met and Surrey mate. It was on Copsem lane, so I'm not sure, and I'm not too sure if it's true. You know how people love to spread this stuff for attention.

I'm pretty sure the police are loving this current situation, as it must be a godsend for them at the moment. Dead quiet.

In other news, I'm hearing that the emergency services are lacking in resources and may require those that have left or retired to step up to the plate. Proper 'Dad's Army' stuff. I might be driving a fire appliance around London again soon

 

[Stroller]

I think the one certainty to come out of this is that there is no way we will ever return to the 'normal' as was. Hopefully the outcome will have a sobering effect on society who will see many people they love pass away in a way none of us ever envisaged happening and, perhaps, a generation that has been very much 'me me me' will actually realise the bigger picture...

How we emerge from this will be fascinating. I think a more caring, dare I say socialist, society might be the outcome.

But then I'm just an aging hippie (as Swords once described me) and a hopeless optimist, so probably not.

 

[Staines R's]

That's good to hear Stainsey, It's bang on the borders with the Met and Surrey mate. It was on Copsem lane, so I'm not sure, and I'm not too sure if it's true. You know how people love to spread this stuff for attention.

I'm pretty sure the police are loving this current situation, as it must be a godsend for them at the moment. Dead quiet.

In other news, I'm hearing that the emergency services are lacking in resources and may require those that have left or retired to step up to the plate. Proper 'Dad's Army' stuff. I might be driving a fire appliance around London again soon

It wouldn’t surprise me mate, there will always be a few jobsworths in any job, but from my personal dealings with the OB recently, there are a new generation joining and the vast majority seem like my lad, hard working kids who actually want to do some good in the world (corny as that might sound). Yeah he says it’s been so quiet last couple of weeks that he finds boring but means he can get a lot of the stuff done that usually gets left.

Would be good to see you on the engines again....you never know, they could get you driving one of our trucks......you’d have to try and get with me....might be a bit of a giggle .

 

[Sooperhoop]

How we emerge from this will be fascinating. I think a more caring, dare I say socialist, society might be the outcome.

But then I'm just an aging hippie (as Swords once described me) and a hopeless optimist, so probably not.

Well it's turned the Tories into a more socialist government than Blair or Brown ever were so there's your 'starter for 10'...

 

[QPR999]

How we emerge from this will be fascinating. I think a more caring, dare I say socialist, society might be the outcome.

But then I'm just an aging hippie (as Swords once described me) and a hopeless optimist, so probably not.

I think you need to just keep on being you Strolls, I know you, and you're a great man.

 

[ELLERS]

Whether or not the Chinese have done this deliberately they have at the very least been reckless

The rest of the world needs a rethink about the relationship with the Chinese regime

Forget Putin and his sabre rattling, the Chinese have been the main threat to world stability for years now and I for one don't trust them not to be developing virus based weapons. Potentially vastly more damaging than a nuclear strike

China would never be able to beat the US militarily. I doubt they would even beat us. There maybe a lot of them but a huge amount are very poor.
I would not trust China and agree they are the biggest threat now. Putin is more about show and being heard.
Amazes me... When Trump came on that state visit, the lefty morons came out in force to demonstrate even that muppet Mayor from London joined in. America our closest ally... yet when Jinping-Pong came over you couldn't see a Rupert or Tarquin in sight? Funny, as Trump says a few things and he is public enemy no 1 whereas Ping Pong has had 10's of thousands of people mysteriously disappear or executed and he gets a meeting with Bercow and lunch with a Mayor?