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kiwiqpr said:
So what are the rules
Do you all have to stay at home unless you are an essential worker
The only shops open here are supermarkets and chemists
Everyone else MUST stay at home and self isolate for four weeks
Pretty sure no planes are allowed
Not even internally
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You can leave home to go to work if you cannot work from home and it is essential that you work. Different from being an essential worker.
 
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kiwiqpr said:
So what are the rules
Do you all have to stay at home unless you are an essential worker
The only shops open here are supermarkets and chemists
Everyone else MUST stay at home and self isolate for four weeks
Pretty sure no planes are allowed
Not even internally
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As it stands ... Stay at home, which I've been doing, except for one period of exercise or for essential shopping, which I've been doing. No interaction with anyone outside of your family inner circle of less than two meters ... check.

The shops that are open near me ( I live in what is classed as a village ) are the small supermarket, the chemist, the hardware store, the newsagents and the offie. This stops the need for large numbers to visit the superstore supermarkets, which I can't remember the last time I did... Two weeks ago maybe?
 
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Woodyhoopleson said:
Well said.

Talking to the bloke who’s fixing my car, has been since last October (long story), on the phone a couple of days ago. He was driving alone to his very isolated workshop in Somerset on Tuesday to do some work, essential to his survival, when he was pulled over by the old bill and told yo go home as he wasn’t an essential worker.

Annoyingly, he didn’t challenge their interpretation of the wording.

Having discovered that I fall through all of Sunak’s cracks, I’ll be fighting my cause to earn and survive for as long as poss.
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What's he doing wrong outside of the govt guidelines? If he's in a car by himself or with family members he's not interfering with anyone else. The 'essential travel' is the misnomer that the authorities are using to impose draconian laws at the moment.

If you're in your car travelling fifty miles and not in direct contact with anyone, how is that worse than someone allowed to travel on the tube or one of the British Rail services? Or an aeroplane?
 
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QPR999 said:
What's he doing wrong outside of the govt guidelines? If he's in a car by himself or with family members he's not interfering with anyone else. The 'essential travel' is the misnomer that the authorities are using to impose draconian laws at the moment.

If you're in your car travelling fifty miles and not in direct contact with anyone, how is that worse than someone allowed to travel on the tube or one of the British Rail services? Or an aeroplane?
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He was well within, I told him he should have challenged the police. I want my car back, so that I can look at it for 6 months.
 
QPR999 said:
The Country is not in lockdown ( What a horrible term, usually reserved for prisons and martial law ) ... yet. I think the agreed agenda is that those passengers self isolate for fourteen days, but I don't see or how this is enforced. Still, the police are sending up drones to capture folk out walking and persecuting them without breaking any of the guidance.
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The guidance is clear “essential travel only” driving 45 miles up to the Peak District for a walk is not essential travel, that’s where the restrictions apply, it also states exercise must be taken close to home.
 
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Turkish" Premier" Hoops said:
The guidance is clear “essential travel only” driving 45 miles up to the Peak District for a walk is not essential travel, that’s where the restrictions apply, it also states exercise must be taken close to home.
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If you're in your car and you're not interfering with anyone else and abiding by the guidelines, what's the problem? It doesn't matter if you're traveling one mile or fifty or seven hundred. Planes are still landing from the most affected countries. People are still travelling on public transport.
 
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QPR999 said:
Anyway, I'm off to bed. There's some extreme gardening taking place in this fine English weather. The garden is getting tackled. A hazelnut tree and an apple tree will no longer exist by six o'clock tomorrow.
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Save the trees! I'm sending Swampy round.
 
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Staines R's said:
Typical of that company......treated their workers like **** while the management got fortunes in bonuses. So glad I left when I did....at least I saw the good times
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Spot on Staines. I could see what was coming when the poison dwarf was taking over. Got offered early up in 2005, couldn't wait to get out the door. Sad to leave so many great people behind, it was a great company.
 
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sb_73 said:
The CMO has put the figure of 20,000 deaths on it I think as a ‘good but tragic’ outcome. Anything much above that is an indication that the lockdown hasn’t worked, or hasn’t worked as intended. I don’t know what timescale he meant for this.
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IC apparently have said that the lockdown is working and according to modelling there maybe as little as 6k deaths according to one of the papers today.
Remembering 8k die every year from flu and 600k die annually in this country.

Something interesting they said yesterday in the reporting the number of deaths. We report after the death certificate and after family has been informed. This means that some of the deaths reported could be 2-3 days old... obviously this can mean two things, we have low numbers or we high but the daily figures are not the exact daily amount.
 
ELLERS said:
Sorry mate as soon as I saw it was from the Guardian I didn’t bother.
They have done nothing but knock the government at every opportunity.
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There are enough media outlets happy to fawn over them. Maybe they won’t cheer next time they choose to not give nurses a wage rise. Probably still will.
 
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ELLERS said:
IC apparently have said that the lockdown is working and according to modelling there maybe as little as 6k deaths according to one of the papers today.
Remembering 8k die every year from flu and 600k die annually in this country.

Something interesting they said yesterday in the reporting the number of deaths. We report after the death certificate and after family has been informed. This means that some of the deaths reported could be 2-3 days old... obviously this can mean two things, we have low numbers or we high but the daily figures are not the exact daily amount.
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There were 28,330 deaths from ‘flu complications’ in the U.K. in the 2014/15 winter period according to government figures, but only 1,692 in 2018/19, so can be quite a swing according, presumably, to the voracity of the virus in any given season and, again presumably, to the country’s preparedness as far as jabs are concerned.

The 2014/15 figure is massive, but I don’t recall much attention on the scale at the time.
 
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Uber_Hoop said:
There were 28,330 deaths from ‘flu complications’ in the U.K. in the 2014/15 winter period according to government figures, but only 1,692 in 2018/19, so can be quite a swing according, presumably, to the voracity of the virus in any given season and, again presumably, to the country’s preparedness as far as jabs are concerned.

The 2014/15 figure is massive, but I don’t recall much attention on the scale at the time.
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From memory the 2018 figures are not for the whole flu season
 
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