Let's Call The Whole Thing Off?

[Tobes]

The latest predictions are that large social gatherings may not be possible for another 12 months
Where does that leave finishing this season
To be fair all the teams in danger of relegation want the season to finish apart from the Brady bitch
Just give LiVARpool the title with the footnote that the season was not completed but they got the consolation prize

The other clubs are just keeping their powder dry. Brady was naive in going too early with the ‘null and void’ shouts. However, do you really think that the other clubs in the relegation battle don’t really want the same thing? Behave.

They’re just parroting the line that the season should be completed, at the minute. Once the clock ticks on, then there’ll likely be a few more break cover and start talking about sacking it off due to the practicalities.

 

[Treble]

If the league is played then so should the FA Cup but I think that you can separate European competition from domestic competitions tbh.

I don't think there's any realistic chance at all of teams flying around Europe to play matches by June, but that doesn't mean that some nations won't be able to play games behind closed in that period. They're two separate entities.

My problem with that is every argument being used to justify completing the league is also applicable to European competitions. So why should everything be done to complete one and not the other. Tbh Libby I'd just more people especially the pundits fighting just as hard to complete all competitions instead of just banging on about Liverpool and the league. If they did that, and the European Cups couldn't happen I'd feel like at least there was some desire to complete them.

I watched United's last game which was played behind closed doors. There was no doubt that the home team was hindered more by not having their fans there. I commented at the time that if league games are played in the same manner, then the home side has a disadvantage. They would've played the reverse fixture earlier in the season and their opponents would've had the advantage of the home crowd, which they won't have.

 

[Tobes]

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Herr Klopp has aged badly during the current crisis

 

[Spurlock]

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love these

 

[Treble]

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"Everyone was in short trousers the last time we won the league....

and so was Stalin"

 

[astro]

PL clubs will need to pay back £750m in TV money if they fail to complete the season

Tobes is organising a whip-round

Said no one.

The other clubs are just keeping their powder dry. Brady was naive in going too early with the ‘null and void’ shouts. However, do you really think that the other clubs in the relegation battle don’t really want the same thing? Behave.

They’re just parroting the line that the season should be completed, at the minute. Once the clock ticks on, then there’ll likely be a few more break cover and start talking about sacking it off due to the practicalities.

https://theathletic.co.uk/1687633/2020/03/19/premier-league-clubs-cost-762m-fail-to-finish-season/

Premier League clubs told to pay back £762m if they fail to finish season

Premier League executives have been told it will cost them £762 million in lost broadcast revenue if the 2019-20 season fails to finish due to the coronavirus,The Athletic can reveal.

The huge figure would come due to a breach of contract in terms agreed for domestic and international rights and was communicated to all 20 clubs during the crisis meeting at Premier League headquarters in London on Thursday morning.

The suspension is understood to be costing Sky, one of the two main domestic broadcasters, huge amounts per day as they are not charging many sports customers and cannot attract the same in advertising.

The clubs receive broadcast money twice a year, in August and February, so only recently received the cash for the end of the season.

Some clubs are determined to get games played behind doors so they don’t lose the broadcast money, such is their vulnerable financial position. Their outgoings — players’ wages in particular — are so high that they fear they cannot survive without it. They want games to go ahead and players to be regularly tested. Training grounds would be sealed off and players “wrapped in cotton wool” to protect them from contracting the virus.

They feel it is not long until staff at Premier League clubs would have to be laid off, as has been the case at Lyon in France today. Some players in Germany have donated their wages so non-playing staff can stay employed. This is something many Premier League clubs would be in favour of.

Other clubs feel games behind closed doors is unrealistic and that the players will refuse to play if they feel their health or those around them is at risk, especially if the rest of the country is isolating to prevent the spread of the virus.

Rather than attend in person, a representative from each club dialled in to the conference chaired by Claudia Arney, the Premier League interim chair, to limit the potential spread of the disease, and the response to the massive price of curtailing the campaign early was said to be sanguine rather than shock. Those in charge of top-flight clubs accepted the consequences of being unable to fulfil fixtures would be significant.

That is why, along with issues around competitive integrity, there remains a “100 per cent” commitment to completing the season whatever it may take, including the prospect of staging matches behind closed doors.The Athletic has previously reported on the potential for litigation if there is no relegation or promotion, aside from matters of European qualification.

 

[Tobes]

https://theathletic.co.uk/1687633/2020/03/19/premier-league-clubs-cost-762m-fail-to-finish-season/

Premier League clubs told to pay back £762m if they fail to finish season

Premier League executives have been told it will cost them £762 million in lost broadcast revenue if the 2019-20 season fails to finish due to the coronavirus,The Athletic can reveal.

The huge figure would come due to a breach of contract in terms agreed for domestic and international rights and was communicated to all 20 clubs during the crisis meeting at Premier League headquarters in London on Thursday morning.

The suspension is understood to be costing Sky, one of the two main domestic broadcasters, huge amounts per day as they are not charging many sports customers and cannot attract the same in advertising.

The clubs receive broadcast money twice a year, in August and February, so only recently received the cash for the end of the season.

Some clubs are determined to get games played behind doors so they don’t lose the broadcast money, such is their vulnerable financial position. Their outgoings — players’ wages in particular — are so high that they fear they cannot survive without it. They want games to go ahead and players to be regularly tested. Training grounds would be sealed off and players “wrapped in cotton wool” to protect them from contracting the virus.

They feel it is not long until staff at Premier League clubs would have to be laid off, as has been the case at Lyon in France today. Some players in Germany have donated their wages so non-playing staff can stay employed. This is something many Premier League clubs would be in favour of.

Other clubs feel games behind closed doors is unrealistic and that the players will refuse to play if they feel their health or those around them is at risk, especially if the rest of the country is isolating to prevent the spread of the virus.

Rather than attend in person, a representative from each club dialled in to the conference chaired by Claudia Arney, the Premier League interim chair, to limit the potential spread of the disease, and the response to the massive price of curtailing the campaign early was said to be sanguine rather than shock. Those in charge of top-flight clubs accepted the consequences of being unable to fulfil fixtures would be significant.

That is why, along with issues around competitive integrity, there remains a “100 per cent” commitment to completing the season whatever it may take, including the prospect of staging matches behind closed doors.The Athletic has previously reported on the potential for litigation if there is no relegation or promotion, aside from matters of European qualification.

So no quotes, no references, no actual substance whatsoever.

Merely, some Kopite ‘understands’.

You forget brains, that any claim back of missed TV revenue, would be balanced out by the loss of an equivalent chunk of missed TV cash if they somehow played out the season during a portion of the period when the next season should have started.

 

[astro]

So no quotes, no references, no actual substance whatsoever.

Merely, some Kopite ‘understands’.

You forget brains, that any claim back of missed TV revenue, would be balanced out by the loss of an equivalent chunk of missed TV cash if they somehow played out the season during a portion of the period when the next season should have started.

you think all the TV companies around the world are going to just take the breach of contract on the chin and keep paying out at current rates?

Failure to finish this season will mean existing contracts are also void and all future payments stop. Any renegotiation for future TV deals will be for an order of magnitude less money.

Every non-ABL understands modern football is dead if the season isn't finished.

Chances of Bramley-Moore going ahead (which Liverpool could do with) if the TV revenue is decimated?

Spurs are the most in danger, their stadium debt will bankrupt them if they lose the current world-record TV deal.

 

[Spurlock]

Spurs are the most in danger, their stadium debt will bankrupt them if they lose the current world-record TV deal.

We are paying back 22 mill a year

No biggie

 

[yossarian]

https://theathletic.co.uk/1687633/2020/03/19/premier-league-clubs-cost-762m-fail-to-finish-season/

Premier League clubs told to pay back £762m if they fail to finish season

Premier League executives have been told it will cost them £762 million in lost broadcast revenue if the 2019-20 season fails to finish due to the coronavirus,The Athletic can reveal.

The huge figure would come due to a breach of contract in terms agreed for domestic and international rights and was communicated to all 20 clubs during the crisis meeting at Premier League headquarters in London on Thursday morning.

The suspension is understood to be costing Sky, one of the two main domestic broadcasters, huge amounts per day as they are not charging many sports customers and cannot attract the same in advertising.

The clubs receive broadcast money twice a year, in August and February, so only recently received the cash for the end of the season.

Some clubs are determined to get games played behind doors so they don’t lose the broadcast money, such is their vulnerable financial position. Their outgoings — players’ wages in particular — are so high that they fear they cannot survive without it. They want games to go ahead and players to be regularly tested. Training grounds would be sealed off and players “wrapped in cotton wool” to protect them from contracting the virus.

They feel it is not long until staff at Premier League clubs would have to be laid off, as has been the case at Lyon in France today. Some players in Germany have donated their wages so non-playing staff can stay employed. This is something many Premier League clubs would be in favour of.

Other clubs feel games behind closed doors is unrealistic and that the players will refuse to play if they feel their health or those around them is at risk, especially if the rest of the country is isolating to prevent the spread of the virus.

Rather than attend in person, a representative from each club dialled in to the conference chaired by Claudia Arney, the Premier League interim chair, to limit the potential spread of the disease, and the response to the massive price of curtailing the campaign early was said to be sanguine rather than shock. Those in charge of top-flight clubs accepted the consequences of being unable to fulfil fixtures would be significant.

That is why, along with issues around competitive integrity, there remains a “100 per cent” commitment to completing the season whatever it may take, including the prospect of staging matches behind closed doors.The Athletic has previously reported on the potential for litigation if there is no relegation or promotion, aside from matters of European qualification.

If the government says 'no' then they can all go whistle. Football won't be treated any differently to anything else. So Sky and clubs will lose money; so what? Everyone else is losing money everyday. Seems like some people have swallowed the whole "football is more important than life and death" ****e that Shankly used to peddle, hook, line and sinker.

 

[Tobes]

you think all the TV companies around the world are going to just take the breach of contract on the chin and keep paying out at current rates?

Failure to finish this season will mean existing contracts are also void and all future payments stop. Any renegotiation for future TV deals will be for an order of magnitude lower money.

You think they’re going to pay twice for the same period of football?

So they start again in September say, do you think they’re going to pay again for that? Or will they pay **** all? So in terms of revenue to the clubs, what’s the difference?

You’ve also decided in your deluded Kopite brain. that a force majeure like this disaster somehow ruins future revenues once normality returns. Unless the existing season is completed, even if that means to the detriment of the next one and the entire football calendar beyond that.

 

[Spurlock]

If the government says 'no' then they can all go whistle. Football won't be treated any differently to anything else. So Sky and clubs will lose money; so what? Everyone else is losing money everyday. Seems like some people have swallowed the whole "football is more important than life and death" ****e that Shankly used to peddle, hook, line and sinker.

The league can pull the plug whenever they want and no one can do ****...they own football..it’s in the rules..it’s the fine print the clubs sign when they join the league.

Whatever Sky ‘wants back’ the PL will just take off them by upping the price for the following seasons

after such a long break...top flight footy will be selling like hot cakes.

 

[astro]

You think they’re going to pay twice for the same period of football?

So they start again in September say, do you think they’re going to pay again for that? Or will they pay **** all? So in terms of revenue to the clubs, what’s the difference?

You’ve also decided in your deluded Kopite brain. that a force majeure like this disaster somehow ruins future revenues once normality returns. Unless the existing season is completed, even if that means to the detriment of the next one and the entire football calendar beyond that.

You've somehow decided that TV companies are prepared to keep paying world-record TV rights and won't use any deliberate breach of contract (such as not fininishing the league) as an excuse to renegotiate and save themselves hundreds of millions.

Billionaires like Philip Green won't even keep their staff employed when the government is covering 80% of wages. But the TV companies are glad to subsidise the PL.

Okay.

 

[astro]

The league can pull the plug whenever they want and no one can do ****...they own football..it’s in the rules..it’s the fine print the clubs sign when they join the league.

Whatever Sky ‘wants back’ the PL will just take off them by upping the price for the following seasons

after such a long break...top flight footy will be selling like hot cakes.

You think a PL that has just written off it's incomplete previous season and is giving no assurances of finishing the next season and is being sued for breach of contract by multiple TV companies and sponsors is somehow going to be in the position to negotiate even more money than the record amounts recently received at football's peak?

Are you a [HASHTAG]#brexit[/HASHTAG] trade deal negotiator by any chance?

 

[Spurlock]

You think a PL that has just written off it's incomplete previous season and is giving no assurances of finishing the next season and is being sued for breach of contract by multiple TV companies and sponsors is somehow going to be in the position to negotiate even more money than the record amounts recently received at football's peak?

Are you a [HASHTAG]#brexit[/HASHTAG] trade deal negotiator by any chance?

Just wait and see

not really bothered so long as season is null and void

 

[astro]

Just wait and see

not really bothered so long as season is null and void

Yeah I suppose that lower league football clubs are already closing just means more people to start supporting PL clubs

And people will be begging to spend all the money they have piling up at home from not going the pub on even higher Sky subsciptions (everyone was already complaining they were far too low)

 

[Tobes]

You've somehow decided that TV companies are prepared to keep paying world-record TV rights and won't use any deliberate breach of contract (such as not fininishing the league) as an excuse to renegotiate and save themselves hundreds of millions.

Billionaires like Philip Green won't even keep their staff employed when the government is covering 80% of wages. But the TV companies are glad to subsidise the PL.

Okay.

It’s called a force majeure - an Act of God. Not a deliberate breaking of a contract, you ridiculous, desperate, deluded, Kopite windbag.

 

[astro]

It’s called a force majeure - an Act of God. Not a deliberate breaking of a contract, you ridiculous, desperate, deluded, Kopite windbag.

Yeah and it acts both ways. If PL teams don't finish a season TV companies also don't have to keep paying billions. Suspending play is force majeure, voiding a previous season and starting a new one is a choice.

Get over the fact that Liverpool are top of the league and think about it.

 

[Stan]

https://theathletic.co.uk/1687633/2020/03/19/premier-league-clubs-cost-762m-fail-to-finish-season/

Premier League clubs told to pay back £762m if they fail to finish season

Premier League executives have been told it will cost them £762 million in lost broadcast revenue if the 2019-20 season fails to finish due to the coronavirus,The Athletic can reveal.

The huge figure would come due to a breach of contract in terms agreed for domestic and international rights and was communicated to all 20 clubs during the crisis meeting at Premier League headquarters in London on Thursday morning.

The suspension is understood to be costing Sky, one of the two main domestic broadcasters, huge amounts per day as they are not charging many sports customers and cannot attract the same in advertising.

The clubs receive broadcast money twice a year, in August and February, so only recently received the cash for the end of the season.

Some clubs are determined to get games played behind doors so they don’t lose the broadcast money, such is their vulnerable financial position. Their outgoings — players’ wages in particular — are so high that they fear they cannot survive without it. They want games to go ahead and players to be regularly tested. Training grounds would be sealed off and players “wrapped in cotton wool” to protect them from contracting the virus.

They feel it is not long until staff at Premier League clubs would have to be laid off, as has been the case at Lyon in France today. Some players in Germany have donated their wages so non-playing staff can stay employed. This is something many Premier League clubs would be in favour of.

Other clubs feel games behind closed doors is unrealistic and that the players will refuse to play if they feel their health or those around them is at risk, especially if the rest of the country is isolating to prevent the spread of the virus.

Rather than attend in person, a representative from each club dialled in to the conference chaired by Claudia Arney, the Premier League interim chair, to limit the potential spread of the disease, and the response to the massive price of curtailing the campaign early was said to be sanguine rather than shock. Those in charge of top-flight clubs accepted the consequences of being unable to fulfil fixtures would be significant.

That is why, along with issues around competitive integrity, there remains a “100 per cent” commitment to completing the season whatever it may take, including the prospect of staging matches behind closed doors.The Athletic has previously reported on the potential for litigation if there is no relegation or promotion, aside from matters of European qualification.

Apparently most of the top football journalists use The Athletic as their main source for their "Exclusive" articles.