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John McDermott leaving the club to take up an FA roll , how big a loss will be be for , honestly don't know much about him
 
Alfie Conn said:
John McDermott leaving the club to take up an FA roll , how big a loss will be be for , honestly don't know much about him
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He is s extremely highly thought of. United tried to recruit him a few years back but he said that he'd waited a lifetime to work with a manager like Pochettino and wasn't going to pass up doing so.

All things change eventually, but it's hard not to see his departure as weakening us and thinking that working with Mourinho isn't what most Academy managers have high on their list of things to do before they retire.

Another job to fill...
 
"Thanks for that Brian" said:
He is s extremely highly thought of. United tried to recruit him a few years back but he said that he'd waited a lifetime to work with a manager like Pochettino and wasn't going to pass up doing so.

All things change eventually, but it's hard not to see his departure as weakening us and thinking that working with Mourinho isn't what most Academy managers have high on their list of things to do before they retire.

Another job to fill...
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Two jobs...
 
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Apparently bbc1 are showing Leicester v wycombe fa cup quarter final from a few years back 4 oclock or so this afternoon so that's me sorted for a couple of hours
 
maggie blanchflower said:
I enjoyed that, great to see all around the inside of stadium. Love the wall of programmes & pics of the double days. The lads were good fun too! Rivalry great between Son & Deli (your sooo lucky) <laugh>
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We used to use one lamp post at one end of the street.and one at the other end.You had to hit the lamp post to score. People wanted to call the police on us!!!!
 
"Thanks for that Brian" said:
He is s extremely highly thought of. United tried to recruit him a few years back but he said that he'd waited a lifetime to work with a manager like Pochettino and wasn't going to pass up doing so.

All things change eventually, but it's hard not to see his departure as weakening us and thinking that working with Mourinho isn't what most Academy managers have high on their list of things to do before they retire.

Another job to fill...
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It's a strange one as let's be honest, our youth and academy set-ups have badly lost their way over the past 3 years. The trouble started well before Poch's reign started to unravel. Talent after talent fizzled into nothing, while we saw a host of players coming through who blatantly weren't good enough. It was a stark contrast with the 'golden era' of players who came through in the AVB/Interim/Early Poch eras.

The reality is from the day Winks broke through to the day Tanganga did the same, we saw precious little to cheer about from our much vaunted academy. Yes, Skipp and KWP came close, but both were going backwards at a rate of knots - and under Poch, not just Maureen.

Perhaps it is time for fresh a start.
 
C. Kane said:
It's a strange one as let's be honest, our youth and academy set-ups have badly lost their way over the past 3 years. The trouble started well before Poch's reign started to unravel. Talent after talent fizzled into nothing, while we saw a host of players coming through who blatantly weren't good enough. It was a stark contrast with the 'golden era' of players who came through in the AVB/Interim/Early Poch eras.

The reality is from the day Winks broke through to the day Tanganga did the same, we saw precious little to cheer about from our much vaunted academy. Yes, Skipp and KWP came close, but both were going backwards at a rate of knots - and under Poch, not just Maureen.

Perhaps it is time for fresh a start.
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It's impossible to know whether he was part of the problem or might have been a part of setting it right.

In 2016, the club implemented a policy of keeping promising youngsters at the club and not loaning them out to get competitive first team football. That didn't help those players and a number below decided to leave before it happened to them as well.

Mauricio Pochettino initiated the policy. Did McDermott support it? It wasn't what happened pre-Poch with Kane, Townsend, Mason, etc., so I'm guessing that his job is to do as he's told by those above him.

A fresh start may possibly help but with Mourinho at the head of it and his reluctance to play Skippy and Parrott in mind, I'm not hugely confident that it will.
 
"Thanks for that Brian" said:
It's impossible to know whether he was part of the problem or might have been a part of setting it right.

In 2016, the club implemented a policy of keeping promising youngsters at the club and not loaning them out to get competitive first team football. That didn't help those players and a number below decided to leave before it happened to them as well.

Mauricio Pochettino initiated the policy. Did McDermott support it? It wasn't what happened pre-Poch with Kane, Townsend, Mason, etc., so I'm guessing that his job is to do as he's told by those above him.

A fresh start may possibly help but with Mourinho at the head of it and his reluctance to play Skippy and Parrott in mind, I'm not hugely confident that it will.
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Chelsea were using a similar policy a few years before: sign some prospects for nominal fees, loan them out for a few seasons to get their value up, then sell them at a profit to balance out the FFP spreadsheet - notably with Nathan Ake, Jeffrey Bruma and Bertrand Traore

Our approach was to eliminate the nominal fees and simply loan out the youngsters we didn't think were going to make it with us to get the maximum value, such as Connor Ogilvie, Anton Walkes, Dominic Ball, Nathan Oduwa etc - although what this has really ended up doing is serve as a barometer for a player's chances of breaking through, most notably in the case of Cameron Carter-Vickers who went from being seen as a long-term prospect in Poch's first couple of seasons to a player we were looking to raise the transfer fee for

It's also worth noting that plenty of youngsters don't need loans to step into the first team, after all Bentaleb and Winks didn't go out on loan they just stepped into the team, just as Ledders did before them - but the issue is there were opening to step into, openings that weren't there for Bennetts, Shashoua, Edwards, Oakley-Boothe etc and, personally, I think a large part of it is that we were hitting our achievement targets at least a season ahead of schedule, with us challenging for the title when the expectation was that we'd be securing CL qualification, and this reduced the amount of opportunities to drop-feed youngsters into the team for a good year or two before Poch started to introduce Skipp into the team last season and was beginning to introduce Parrott and Tanganga this...only for Colchester to begin their campaign of ruining everything
 
I think that when this ends a lot of clubs will go to the wall and hopefully clubs will reevaluate the way they do business and the way they view the fans
Instead of bringing in average overseas players I hope they will put more faith in UK based players , the same for the fans, stop mugging them off for the SKY BT AMAZON £$ and reengage with the fans , prices need to be more realistic , fans are going to be very careful with finance due to lay of from their jobs
 
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Alfie Conn said:
I think that when this ends a lot of clubs will go to the wall and hopefully clubs will reevaluate the way they do business and the way they view the fans
Instead of bringing in average overseas players I hope they will put more faith in UK based players , the same for the fans, stop mugging them off for the SKY BT AMAZON £$ and reengage with the fans , prices need to be more realistic , fans are going to be very careful with finance due to lay of from their jobs
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Of course, the fact that the way we're set up gives us a degree of self-sufficiency while clubs such as Palace and Villa are likely ****ed will definitely not escape the attention of the Lunatic Fringe

...yeah, and monkeys might fly out of my butt!
 
Alfie Conn said:
I think that when this ends a lot of clubs will go to the wall and hopefully clubs will reevaluate the way they do business and the way they view the fans
Instead of bringing in average overseas players I hope they will put more faith in UK based players , the same for the fans, stop mugging them off for the SKY BT AMAZON £$ and reengage with the fans , prices need to be more realistic , fans are going to be very careful with finance due to lay of from their jobs
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The Bundesliga ticket prices are far more acceptable and it doesn't seem to have done them any damage.
As that dodgy crook at Bayern put it, "We do not think fans are like cows, who you milk. Football has got to be for everybody."
 
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