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Small things help...….

Over here Revenue and Dept of Social Protection have worked in double quick time to set up a scheme whereby if staff are laid off dur to COVID 19 the employer can register with Revenue to pay the weekly benefit payment of €203 direct to the employee through payroll and receive a refund direct into their bank account the next day, thus saving the nightmare of the employee having to apply and wait however long it takes for the application to be processed...….

Credit where credit is due......
 
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sb_73 said:
In addition to all the public health activity, two strands of work in the medical research/pharmaceuticals world.

The first is to develop a vaccine. This is likely to take a bit of time, as it needs to be tested on healthy patients and large scale production demands worked out. But work is well underway. Mid next year probably. Then the vaccine will be tinkered with every year to cover mutations in the virus, just like flu.

The second is to develop a cure/treatment for those with a serious case of the illness. Work on this is flying. My company, working with a smaller specialist firm, started in earnest 18 days ago. We have a range of antibodies isolated and expect to start trialling in early summer. If it works it would be used widely even if it’s not gone through the traditional number of trials because the alternative would possibly be death. There are dozens of other companies working along the same lines, some repurposing existing drugs which is the best and quickest thing to do because we know the safety profiles. Some Chinese doctors saying a Japanese drug which they have tried in about 200 patients seems to alleviate symptoms and lead to faster negative status for infection (ie cure). Shares in the company that makes this drug (Fuji Film believe it or not) have gone up 15%.

We need to see the next couple of months through, calmly and sensibly, following the public health guidance. Then hopefully some technology will kick in. Capitalism might have ****ed up your pension, but it might also have saved some lives at the end of this.
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On the news last night they were saying there are over 200 different drugs they are looking at.
A few of the drugs are already on the market for example asthma drugs which the Chinese are using on people already. These drugs just need to be modified and they don't need clinical trials.
it was interesting to see the scientists in the UK labs who are working around the clock to sort this virus.
 
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Tramore Ranger said:
Small things help...….

Over here Revenue and Dept of Social Protection have worked in double quick time to set up a scheme whereby if staff are laid off dur to COVID 19 the employer can register with Revenue to pay the weekly benefit payment of €203 direct to the employee through payroll and receive a refund direct into their bank account the next day, thus saving the nightmare of the employee having to apply and wait however long it takes for the application to be processed...….

Credit where credit is due......
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Far too simple for the UK...
 
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Tramore Ranger said:
Small things help...….

Over here Revenue and Dept of Social Protection have worked in double quick time to set up a scheme whereby if staff are laid off dur to COVID 19 the employer can register with Revenue to pay the weekly benefit payment of €203 direct to the employee through payroll and receive a refund direct into their bank account the next day, thus saving the nightmare of the employee having to apply and wait however long it takes for the application to be processed...….

Credit where credit is due......
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where is 'over here'?
 
ELLERS said:
Why the Coronavirus Hit Italy So Hard
The country has the second-oldest population on earth, and its young mingle more often with elderly loved ones.
https://www.wired.com/story/why-the...JaA7lZKcmnU-8copPexi4SzU_S8uG-yv7LC7FR-psl0jg
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It seems Bergamo has been severely hit as 110 doctors have become sick, many worked without gloves and the area has by far the highest fatality rate...

https://www.euronews.com/2020/03/18...-after-working-without-gloves-due-to-shortage
 
I wonder if this has been in the UK longer than described. My wife and I virtually never get unwell, but both did just prior to Christmas. I had the worst cough I’ve ever had, dry, unproductive. Coughed myself into a persistent state of headache with force such that I felt like something became detached at the base of my skull. Definitely a fever with it too.

Work has dried up, gone from a rosy looking 6 months just 2 weeks ago, to absolutely nothing today.

The incremental ebbing away of our liberty will inevitably continue over the coming days. Where does this end?

The weirdest of times.
 
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StortfordQPR said:
My son works at a Sainsbury's in Liverpool and staff are bring sworn at just because some shelves are empty
I think retailers have done what they can in the face of unbelievable idiocy from many members of the public who think only they matter
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Agree retailers are doing all they can. Sorry your son is being sworn at. Are they swearing because of Coronavirus or just because that is how they communicate in Liverpool?

All seems a bit more measured and calm in Paris. Queues of 3 or 4 people in supermarkets, and rationing of certain goods. I got to the till yesterday with 4 packets of soap and had 2 taken away, which seems reasonable as it means they'll be enough for everyone. Afraid that from images I see in the news, the UK aren't painting themselves well here. I know it is probably a small minority of idiots, but it seems the small minority are dragging a lot more down with them.
 
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Woodyhoopleson said:
I wonder if this has been in the UK longer than described. My wife and I virtually never get unwell, but both did just prior to Christmas. I had the worst cough I’ve ever had, dry, unproductive. Coughed myself into a persistent state of headache with force such that I felt like something became detached at the base of my skull. Definitely a fever with it too.

Work has dried up, gone from a rosy looking 6 months just 2 weeks ago, to absolutely nothing today.

The incremental ebbing away of our liberty will inevitably continue over the coming days. Where does this end?

The weirdest of times.
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Unless you had been in close contact with people who had recently been in China, or people who had been in close contact with people who had recently been in China, unlikely to be the virus, unless you don’t believe anything at all about the genesis of this disease.

This ends with us controlling the outbreak, developing a vaccine and remaining vigilant for future mutations. Your ‘liberty’ is relative.
 
sb_73 said:
Unless you had been in close contact with people who had recently been in China, or people who had been in close contact with people who had recently been in China, unlikely to be the virus, unless you don’t believe anything at all about the genesis of this disease.

This ends with us controlling the outbreak, developing a vaccine and remaining vigilant for future mutations. Your ‘liberty’ is relative.
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Who knows where or when it began and with whom I came into contact, directly or indirectly. Maybe it originated from a market in Wuhan, or a laboratory.

I doubt I’ll be accepting a vaccine.
 
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Woodyhoopleson said:
I wonder if this has been in the UK longer than described. My wife and I virtually never get unwell, but both did just prior to Christmas. I had the worst cough I’ve ever had, dry, unproductive. Coughed myself into a persistent state of headache with force such that I felt like something became detached at the base of my skull. Definitely a fever with it too.

Work has dried up, gone from a rosy looking 6 months just 2 weeks ago, to absolutely nothing today.

The incremental ebbing away of our liberty will inevitably continue over the coming days. Where does this end?

The weirdest of times.
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Funny you should say that Woody... I came back from France in January (on the car ferry with all the Lorry drivers). Likewise I don't normally get i'll but had this weird illness. It started with 2 days of aches/fever then for about a week after I was chesty. As always and due to work I stayed at home for 3 weeks and had no contact with anyone bar my partner. I discussed this yesterday and when a test becomes availible for all I will get one.
Saying that they say once you have had flu you know it. For me it was just a weird cold.
 
sb_73 said:
Unless you had been in close contact with people who had recently been in China, or people who had been in close contact with people who had recently been in China, unlikely to be the virus, unless you don’t believe anything at all about the genesis of this disease.
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You cant actually say that Sb. You don't know who has had this or for how long. It could have been someone returning from china passed it on to someone who passed it onto a kid who passed it onto someone else and on to Woody. You cannot trace these things exactly.
 
Woodyhoopleson said:
I wonder if this has been in the UK longer than described. My wife and I virtually never get unwell, but both did just prior to Christmas. I had the worst cough I’ve ever had, dry, unproductive. Coughed myself into a persistent state of headache with force such that I felt like something became detached at the base of my skull. Definitely a fever with it too.

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Me too Woody. Nov30th I saw one of my medic friends at that time, and asked them about my fever, headache and cough. He told me to get Benalyn...and fair enough by Christmas (a month later!) it had gone.
I asked him recently, "do you remember that cough, what if I had it now would you be worried?" He said he would have hospitalised me, or at least fully isolated me, if I had it now. I really do wonder if it has been around, and around here longer than we thought.
The only way we can find out is by testing people who don't get ill for antibodies to the virus, but to be honest now that will not work as we do not know when they got to see the virus for the first time. We will never know.

Anyway went into CostCo in Milton Keynes with my daughter looking for eggs and a sack of potatoes. They were queuing round the block 400-800 yards in the rain, they were letting one in one out. Can't be doing that, so we went to the Tescos near there. Shelves nearly bare, no eggs, no potatoes, no frozen sweetcorn (please don't ask!) but I did get 3 packets of Cheeselets, that my hubbie LOVES, and that we could not get at Christmas because there was a run on them (silver lining).
On the way back we spotted a lovely farm shop, drew in bought a sack of potatoes and some eggs and went home happy.

Planning to watch an online "live" gig tonight, in place of a gig we were seeing this weekend.
Loads to do, read, watch...and its warm here...and hubbie is beaming at the thought of 3 large packets of cheeselets
 
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Woodyhoopleson said:
Who knows where or when it began and with whom I came into contact, directly or indirectly. Maybe it originated from a market in Wuhan, or a laboratory.

I doubt I’ll be accepting a vaccine.
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If you are under 70 and don’t have underlying health issues you won’t be offered a vaccine, so you can rest easy on that.
 
qprbeth said:
Me too Woody. Nov30th I saw one of my medic friends at that time, and asked them about my fever, headache and cough. He told me to get Benalyn...and fair enough by Christmas (a month later!) it had gone.
I asked him recently, "do you remember that cough, what if I had it now would you be worried?" He said he would have hospitalised me, or at least fully isolated me, if I had it now. I really do wonder if it has been around, and around here longer than we thought.
The only way we can find out is by testing people who don't get ill for antibodies to the virus, but to be honest now that will not work as we do not know when they got to see the virus for the first time. We will never know.

Anyway went into CostCo in Milton Keynes with my daughter looking for eggs and a sack of potatoes. They were queuing round the block 400-800 yards in the rain, they were letting one in one out. Can't be doing that, so we went to the Tescos near there. Shelves nearly bare, no eggs, no potatoes, no frozen sweetcorn (please don't ask!) but I did get 3 packets of Cheeselets, that my hubbie LOVES, and that we could not get at Christmas because there was a run on them (silver lining).
On the way back we spotted a lovely farm shop, drew in bought a sack of potatoes and some eggs and went home happy.

Planning to watch an online "live" gig tonight, in place of a gig we were seeing this weekend.
Loads to do, read, watch...and its warm here...and hubbie is beaming at the thought of 3 large packets of cheeselets
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I was about to say that to you but you mention at the end. I went shopping yesterday and shop was empty. However many local farms have plenty of eggs/veg/honey Sadly I cant find any hand gel in the farms.
 
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