Match Day Thread Premier League, Cups & Euro Watch

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johnsonsbaby said:
I think you're describing the best team to watch.

We often hear 'the best team didn't win that game' or a variation on that, usually meaning the outcome of a game wasn't what was expected because (another favourite saying) 'the best team on paper' didn't win.

There's a whole host of things that determine the outcome of a game (besides a fair and square game) from poor officiating to fluke goals but the best team over the course of a season is the team that outscores their opponents most often. You can't do that by fluke across 38 games. If a team of Allstars was put together and didn't win the league it's because someone else was better at winning games than they were, ie. the whole point of the game. Football leagues aren't run as exhibitions, they are competitions and while I would love to watch glorious football every week and win, the reality is more often one or the other. The Allstars may have played immaculate football that was a joy to watch but by definition they didn't do the only thing that counts, outscore the most. There's no subjectivity to it. In a one off game, maybe, over a season, no.

I accept your point of view, I just think it's flawed.
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So from the example I gave earlier with team X and Y who do you think is the best ?
one has beaten the other 6 times that season - therefore has been consistent against them but due to a small patch due to multiple injuries they lost form for just 5 games which ultimately cost them the title ?
 
Bumps said:
So from the example I gave earlier with team X and Y who do you think is the best ?
one has beaten the other 6 times that season - therefore has been consistent against them but due to a small patch due to multiple injuries they lost form for just 5 games which ultimately cost them the title ?
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Bit of a convoluted example but the team that won was the best. The fact they lost both league games to the 2nd placed team isn't any more significant than if they lost both league games against any other team. (The wins in the cups are red herrings)
 
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This is easy enough to sort out, who are the better team out of us and city.

City have played great football, scored stupid amounts of goals, often in just one match, where as we have chugged along amassing more and more points. While city have finally realised that scoring nine goals still only gets you 3 points.

Winning a league takes so much more than winning a cup, you've got to be up for it every game, keep going and putting the effort in day after day.
 
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THE FOOL said:
This is easy enough to sort out, who are the better team out of us and city.

City have played great football, scored stupid amounts of goals, often in just one match, where as we have chugged along amassing more and more points. While city have finally realised that scoring nine goals still only gets you 3 points.

Winning a league takes so much more than winning a cup, you've got to be up for it every game, keep going and putting the effort in day after day.
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Man City have won a lot more than us in recent times but you'll be hard pushed to find someone who genuinely believe they're the better team right now.
 
Zanjinho said:
Man City have won a lot more than us in recent times but you'll be hard pushed to find someone who genuinely believe they're the better team right now.
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There we go, the best team wins the league, being consistent isnt enough, you've got to be consistently the best!

You can win a cup by putting a great performance a couple of times a month and having a bit of luck.
 
Okay okay
Just for giggles then - cause i know i am well in the minority but
The season Jose’s Madrid beat THAT Barca side to the title
Who was the best ?

Ps i think i know where this goes but hey ho

Ps - i fairly certain i dont agree with you lmao unless you say Barca
 
Zanjinho said:
Man City have won a lot more than us in recent times but you'll be hard pushed to find someone who genuinely believe they're the better team right now.
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Will forgo anything i may say to incriminate myself <laugh> Bit there are a **** ton load on the radio, social media probably on some of the other boards on this very forum
I think you may have been fishing there lol
 
So what happened with Dier last night? I just watched a 1 minute clip that showed him climbing up to the back of the stand to confront someone. Was someone shouting abuse or what?
 
johnsonsbaby said:
So what happened with Dier last night? I just watched a 1 minute clip that showed him climbing up to the back of the stand to confront someone. Was someone shouting abuse or what?
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His brother was having a punch up with another spurs fan, probably heard him bad mouthing eric
 
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