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Ric Glasgow said:
I was a shop steward in the TGWU for 10 years and I have watched the erosion of workers rights over the last couple of decades.I wouldn't join a union anymore,most of the conveners and officials are self serving hypocrites these days and line their own pockets in preference to sticking their neck out.
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Unions are people and they are only as good as its people (sometimes that can be just how good your rep or direct contact is).

They should, and largely do, give you bargaining power as a collective, which is invaluable.

It's a sorry state of affairs when any worker feels alienated from a union.
 
Ric Glasgow said:
I was a shop steward in the TGWU for 10 years and I have watched the erosion of workers rights over the last couple of decades.I wouldn't join a union anymore,most of the conveners and officials are self serving hypocrites these days and line their own pockets in preference to sticking their neck out.
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Yeah I wouldn't totally disagree here !
Went to a tribunal in Leeds in the early part of the century and our union rep basically rolled over had his belly tickled and lost us our holiday entitlement !
Dropped out after that .
 
Leon T Trout AFC said:
He's nearly 70 (or is 70, I forget).

Degree or no degree at his stage - it doesn't matter to me (and I place a high regard to education and academic practice/rigour).

I asked you because I wondered if in your line of work, whatever you do, if it still comes up at your age.

In my opinion, his actions, ideas and practices far out weigh a degree from decades ago.
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The last line is spot on, anyway I thought we had all agreed education is not a good measure of a politicians worth.
 
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Julian Edelman said:
Yeah I wouldn't totally disagree here !
Went to a tribunal in Leeds in the early part of the century and our union rep basically rolled over had his belly tickled and lost us our holiday entitlement !
Dropped out after that .
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A union rep wouldn’t represent you at a tribunal.
Put some more meat on them bones
As what you just posted didn’t happen
 
Leon T Trout AFC said:
He's nearly 70 (or is 70, I forget).

Degree or no degree at his stage - it doesn't matter to me (and I place a high regard to education and academic practice/rigour).

I asked you because I wondered if in your line of work, whatever you do, if it still comes up at your age.

In my opinion, his actions, ideas and practices far out weigh a degree from decades ago.
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I'm seeing that unless you have a degree or vocational qually you don't get an interview if you're starting out now, unless you do a bottom feeder job.

Some kids think they can buck the system and come in with an MBA or MSC and avoid years of toil. That won't work either, as no relevant work experience means you are a drifter/not committed.

It gets steeper and steeper every year for young kids coming up in terms of entry level.

Leaving aside his lack of high level education or his 'modest; intelligence, Corbyn is an ageing introvert bereft of charisma or charm.

Unsuited to the role, a successor will be being lined up as we speak.
 
Julian Edelman said:
Yeah I wouldn't totally disagree here !
Went to a tribunal in Leeds in the early part of the century and our union rep basically rolled over had his belly tickled and lost us our holiday entitlement !
Dropped out after that .
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The last time I went to a tribunal I turned up with a reusable Tesco bag full of documents pertaining to my case.The company employed barristers and advocates(earning circa £3k a day).The case cost that company £70,000 in legal fees alone,I won.

So,relevant to some of the conversation on here,there is a lot of truth in the fact that education and qualifications don't always win the day and as such,I don't pay a lot of attention to Corbyn or Johnson's exam results
 
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Chazz Rheinhold said:
A union rep wouldn’t represent you at a tribunal.
Put some more meat on them bones
As what you just posted didn’t happen
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We worked for a Leeds construction firm in 2001 .
At the end of the contract they didn't pay us our last week's wages which was over £500 each .
We where also supposed to get the holiday entitlement for the 2 months we work for them .
We went to the tribunal at a meeting room in Leeds .
We met the union rep from Leeds who represented us as our one from Hull couldn't make it !
All we ended up getting was part of our weeks wages !
BTW ! This did happen .
If you'd worked in the construction trade at this time you would know about it !
 
balkan tiger said:
The last line is spot on, anyway I thought we had all agreed education is not a good measure of a politicians worth.
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Most politicians have degrees these days just like most professions: ie. show you can concentrate, absorb and understand knowledge, apply it and demonstrate your ability to analyse problems effectively and generate solutions, often under pressure.

Degrees are one of the readily available methods of gauging this. .
 
Julian Edelman said:
We worked for a Leeds construction firm in 2001 .
At the end of the contract they didn't pay us our last week's wages which was over £500 each .
We where also supposed to get the holiday entitlement for the 2 months we work for them .
We went to the tribunal at a meeting room in Leeds .
We met the union rep from Leeds who represented us as our one from Hull couldn't make it !
All we ended up getting was part of our weeks wages !
BTW ! This did happen .
If you'd worked in the construction trade at this time you would know about it !
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Mediation?
 
Julian Edelman said:
We worked for a Leeds construction firm in 2001 .
At the end of the contract they didn't pay us our last week's wages which was over £500 each .
We where also supposed to get the holiday entitlement for the 2 months we work for them .
We went to the tribunal at a meeting room in Leeds .
We met the union rep from Leeds who represented us as our one from Hull couldn't make it !
All we ended up getting was part of our weeks wages !
BTW ! This did happen .
If you'd worked in the construction trade at this time you would know about it !
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Why was it a famous case or something? how did he roll over
Did you go through acas first? what did they say?
 
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