Off Topic The Politics Thread

[Star of David Bardsley]

I'd prefer the report was out. But Labour cannot base its Brexit policy on what it doesn't know, as Strolls suggests.

If there was a smoking gun in there, there would be huge pressure to publish. Even Grieve just argues it contains "information". Great.

There’s really no argument against their policy. They negotiate a deal free of the Tories’ red lines and we get a free, informed
vote on it. Democracy innit.

 

[ELLERS]

We did get it wrong but you can’t keep burying your head in the sand and hoping this Russia thing goes away but that’s just one thing. The Leave campaign has been proven to be a load of nonsense and the vote would’ve been declared void legally if this were a binding referendum. We’re binding ourselves into something that would’ve been thrown out if we were bound to it. That’s mental. North Korea would consider it a bit of a mockery.

That is just a post from someone who voted Remain and doesn’t like the outcome. Just because you think we got it wrong doesn’t mean we did? Plenty of people think it’s the best thing. We all have our opinions but results must be respected otherwise we are no better than North Korea.

 

[GoldhawkRoad]

Correct, I don't know the nature of the influence. Why won't Johnson's controllers release the report, would you say?

Because they don't have to. Customs and procedures have not been broken by not publishing. It would have been leaked by now if it concealed something material. Johnson says it doesn't, and could not afford the sunsequent damage if he was lying over this

 

[ELLERS]

If the Tories complimented your haircut you’d blush.

I don’t have hair... you know that.

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

That is just a post from someone who voted Remain and doesn’t like the outcome. Just because you think we got it wrong doesn’t mean we did? Plenty of people think it’s the best thing. We all have our opinions but results must be respected otherwise we are no better than North Korea.

Kim Jong would be proud of the devotion to the cause against all evidence.

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

I don’t have hair... you know that.

That was the gag

 

[ELLERS]

That was the gag

I know that’s why I said what I did.

 

[GoldhawkRoad]

Maybe they ought to stop hiding the report then. It’s not a good look.

Agree, but unless the voting public smell a rat, it's not hurting the Tories. Corbyn will know by now what it contains in material respects. He's casual about it, isn't he?

 

[ELLERS]

Kim Jong would be proud of the devotion to the cause against all evidence.

Every time Someone mentions North Korea I think of that Team America film.

 

[GoldhawkRoad]

There’s really no argument against their policy. They negotiate a deal free of the Tories’ red lines and we get a free, informed
vote on it. Democracy innit.

No, it's manufactured Remain, and the public see through it

 

[Stroller]

Because they don't have to. Customs and procedures have not been broken by not publishing. It would have been leaked by now if it concealed something material. Johnson says it doesn't, and could not afford the sunsequent damage if he was lying over this

Johnson should be asked about the report every time he's forced out of hiding.

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

No, it's manufactured Remain, and the public see through it

Maybe but then we’ve established the public are morons.

 

[GoldhawkRoad]

Johnson should be asked about the report every time he's forced out of hiding.

None of the opposition parties are spending much energy on it. They know by now there's nothing in it

 

[GoldhawkRoad]

Maybe but then we’ve established the public are morons.

That's Labour's problem. The left wing elite have treated the working class like morons, and the working class have left Labour in droves

 

[ELLERS]

I think we can all agree that the Tories have not been at their best of late but it must show how bad Labour are under Corbyn. I think I posted the poll that said he has a -60% rating. The worse since Foot. Forget the press/anti-semitism stuff... he is still bloody hopeless. This is something that he has caused, no one else.

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

That's Labour's problem. The left wing elite have treated the working class like morons, and the working class have left Labour in droves

If that’s true and they’ve drifted to the Tories and Sir Nige then it’s not an unreasonable opinion.

 

[GoldhawkRoad]

If that’s true and they’ve drifted to the Tories and Sir Nige then it’s not an unreasonable opinion.

That's subjective

 

[ELLERS]

That's Labour's problem. The left wing elite have treated the working class like morons, and the working class have left Labour in droves

My mate has been a life long Labour voter but will not be voting for Corbyn.

 

[GoldhawkRoad]

My mate has been a life long Labour voter but will not be voting for Corbyn.

There are millions like him, Ellers. And Jewish voters. Labour will hope to pick up Muslim votes in the cities

 

[Stroller]

My mate has been a life long Labour voter but will not be voting for Corbyn.

Your polling samples are not necessarily representative.