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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. bobmid

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    And that has to be up to a jury to decide based on scrutiny of the proposed guilt and any other evidence taken into account,.
     
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  2. Goldhawk-Road

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    Exactly, Bob. And in Corbyn's case, the jury will be the electorate.
     
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  3. bobmid

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    Same with johnson and the muslims. Back to tit for tat
     
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  4. bobmid

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    So it's in the interests of everyone to see such a report. I wonder why Boris wont release it.
     
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  5. Goldhawk-Road

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    Sure, there will be some muslims that are upset by the niqab comments. The question is whether that one article Johnson wrote, which actually defended the right of Muslim women to wear a face mask, was of the same seriousness as how Jewish people have been treated in the Labour Party since Corbyn became leader
     
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  6. bobmid

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    That's right. The article which he wrote using racist terminology will be decided by the electorate
     
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  7. Staines R's

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    I’ve got more Maggie jokes if you want them mate ;)

    Didn’t catch any smears on Jezza yesterday. My 12hr shift turned into a 15hr shift so I got home late and went straight to bed
     
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  8. QPR Oslo

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    I think you and others are so desperate to defend the clear racism and islamophobia of the right wing that you willfully mistake anti- Israel comment as hatred of Jewsish people
     
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    I’ve kept asking Eelers but he can’t seem to find any, Bob. Good luck ‘cos he try’s to wriggle out of giving a direct answer....like a slippery Eel that’s been bathing in melted butter for 2 weeks :)
     
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  10. Goldhawk-Road

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    It's not Israelis that have been leaving the Labour Party in droves since Corbyn became leader. Why won't you listen to them?
     
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    Don't say you haven't been warned...

     
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  12. bobmid

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    :emoticon-0136-giggl:emoticon-0136-giggl
     
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  13. QPR Oslo

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    I know many people of the Jewish faith naturally do not like criticism of the Israeli state. But criticism of Israel and its actions are very valid, and always have been. The abomination is the failure of right leaning governments in the US and UK to condemn Israels actions for decades, very much based on not wanting to lose their Jewish vote back home. All credit to Labour when it refuses to join in the hypocrisy.
     
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  14. Goldhawk-Road

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    Neatly avoids my question. Criticism of the Israeli government is perfectly acceptable. Except that in Labour, anti-Israel sentiment has spilled into anti-Jew sentiment. Ask the Jewish members and MP's that have been forced out of their party by hate speech and threats of violence. Ask the Jewish leaders who are refusing to endorse Corbyn's Labour. You cannot just ignore this.
     
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    I ignore what I dont believe, and as said I dont believe real anti-semitism is widespread in the Labour party. It may of course occur, but it is far worse and widespread in both the Tory and Brexit parties, where you can't even "man-up" to criticise Israel.
     
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    New ComRes poll for Sunday express


    Con 36% (+3)

    Lab 28% (-1)

    LibDem 18% (-1)

    Brexit 10% (-2)

    Green 3% (-1)


    Best PM - Johnson 32% Corbyn 18%
     
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    To be fair Goldie, so far not one of the ‘Corbyn is an anti-semite’ crew have given a straight answer or example of Corbyn being an anti-Semite since this debate began.
     
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    mmm that's interesting I posted quotes from a respected reporter from last night and you brush them aside, yet in the same breath you say i wriggle out of evidence...<doh> Why don't you just come out with it Staines, that you are a denier and believe that Corbyn is innocent.
    The fact that the human rights council are investigating should ring alarm bells? <doh>
     
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  19. Goldhawk-Road

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    I believe over a dozen Labour MP's have resigned over Corbyn's handling of the anti-semitism allegations, Stainsey. The threats are clear enough. There's plenty of evidence of those and the police take them seriously.

    Corbyn has been careful not to hold a smoking gun. But bit by bit the evidence has mounted up against him, largely, but not solely, by his failure to act. It will be interesting to see what the EHRC concludes, but there is some suggestion that if it comes down against Labour, the party could be bankrupted by multi-million lawsuits by aggrieved Jewish ex members. The NEC are ****ting themselves over this. Watch this space!
     
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    I won't bother Goldie. We have sympathisers of Corbyn who will not listen to reason.
    The difference bet you and I and them is at least when Boris made remarks we both stated that it was stupid and wrong to do whereas our deniers won't accept overwhelming evidence, eveivdence that is coming out every day.
     
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