With respect mate, your comments on the tourist industry is utter rubbish. I’m willing to bet you £100 that in 5 years time, tourist visit figures will be the same or have increased from what they are now.
It just comes over as scaremongering.
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With respect mate, your comments on the tourist industry is utter rubbish. I’m willing to bet you £100 that in 5 years time, tourist visit figures will be the same or have increased from what they are now.
It just comes over as scaremongering.
If the Labour Party we’re campaigning on the promise of more funding for schools and hospitals, plus increasing the number of rozzers, you’d be chugging a bucket of your own cum in excitement.
Or something.
I've heard of boycotts before relating to various nations. They never last.
Tourists will still come. They just won't be able to work and stay without a visa. London is a huge draw and will continue to be.
I haven't come across a worst fear mongerer than you, Cologne. Nothing personal!
This is not just a case of scaremongering - at the point of entry you do not know who is a tourist and who is looking to stay and work - the former outnumber the latter by about 20 to one. How are you going to harden up the border for the one without disadvantaging the other ? How are you going to know the date of arrival of European incomers without insisting on passports which most EU citizens don't have. Currently a weekend tourist to London can make a spontaneous decision, buy a ticket, and go - with nothing other than an ID card, which all have by law. A majority don't have a passport, because they are not needed in the EU, and they are not going to go out and order one just for a weekend in London.
Unfortunately again you are wrong, to get into the U.K. you have to show a passport at the relevant border posts, you even have to show one to fly internally, this applies to U.K. citizens as well as EU citizens, again scaremongering at its finest.
And before you ask I am a driver who goes abroad , once regularly at least twice a week, now not so much, but even now I have to show my passport just to gain access to the ports I visit on a regular basis.
Again nothing more than scaremongering!!
I can honestly say in my 30 years of welcoming passengers into the UK at Heathrow, the vast majority of travellers had passports. Maybe the majority of Europeans don’t but I can only speak for the travellers I encountered.
Also from your previous post you inferred that it might also effect world tourism to this country.
Do you honestly feel that Earl and Freda from Kentucky are not gonna visit ‘cos of Brexit ?
Or the thousands of Japanese tourists who spend 24hrs in each city just to take a few photos as quickly as possible to prove they have been there are gonna knock London of their list ?
Of course they are not......it’s just scaremongering.
How do you issue a visa when most Europeans don't carry passports ? How do you decide at the point of entry who is a worker and who is a tourist ? This is not just a case of scaremongering Goldie - I hate Brexit and the reasoning behind it, and the way it has driven a wedge through my homeland - I would like to be able to be proud of my home nation living here, but I can't, I feel nothing but shame. I feel nothing but shame for a country where an internal problem of one small party of just over a hundred thousand members could lead to such far reaching consequences. Nothing but shame for a country where all true debate has been stifled for so long. Only shame for a country where prime ministers can close parliaments at will, be found guilty of it, yet carry on as if nothing has happened. At one time I thought Britain was a mature democracy - it has taken the last 3 years to destroy that belief. I can only say that I do not know another ex pat here who feels any different to me. Brexit has dragged Britain through the gutter in terms of it's standing in the World and it's difficult to live here and watch from a distance.
I better hope I don’t get attacked by a mad axeman while out trick or treating tomorrow night.......project fear.
Absolute rubbish ! I have been coming and going with my wife for the last 30 years and she has never needed to have a passport entering the UK - every citizen in the EU. carries an ID card and this is fully sufficient as a travel document.
I spoke to my Labour mate just 1 hour ago who thinks he is unelectable.
I believe there is a place in politics for Jezza just not leading the country.
Then how come every lorry driver, car driver, van driver, motorcyclist, pedestrian passenger has to show their ****ing passport before being allowed to go through “ PASSPORT CONTROL “ At Calais, boulogne, etc.
When you say "carry" do you mean 'own"? Don't most Europeans travel outside the EU? Don't they visit the US at some point. I get a visa to the US for pleasure or a short work visit. It doesn't mean I want to demand to stay their indefinitely.
It's easy to blame the Tories for Brexit, but it was a free vote, and 52% wanted to leave. Remainers say Leavers didn't know then, what they know now, but there is no evidence whatsoever that people have changed their minds. I'm proud that my country gave people the choice, and proud that the result will be honoured, and the electorate will not be told they made a mistake and to vote again, as has happened in some parts of Europe
Possibly because all the British have to have them when travelling abroad, in absence of any other proof of ID.
I think that this statement goes a long way to showing a misunderstanding about leave supporters.
I believe that many leavers will lend their support to the Conservatives even if they fear an extreme government for a further four years rather than run the risk of Brexit not happening.
I, also, think that several of the ‘clever’ manoeuvres by Parliament over recent months could have serious repercussions if a more extreme government with a large majority get into power.
Some examples of perceived injustices:
Allowing the speaker to no longer need to be impartial
Rushing through laws in just a few hours (without proper scrutiny)
Allowing the public to realise that 11 judges are more powerful than Parliament and that the House of Lords can frustrate the government whenever they want to.
It is like a Pandora’s box that a lot have people have rejoiced in and I fear now that several extreme policies could be passed because of the perceived view that Parliament have been trying to stop ‘the will of the people’. Imagine if the government decided to hold a referendum on abolishing the House of Lords - I doubt if the majority would vote against it in the current climate.
Sorry Turkish......Cologne is correct and EU citizens can travel using just their ID card.
Good luck with this one.