Chukka? Beats me how someone so obviously intelligent can also be so clueless (him, not you).
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Chukka? Beats me how someone so obviously intelligent can also be so clueless (him, not you).
Come on! The objective has to be destroying Royston "peabrain" Smith and show that Labour have the better policies. In Itchen, ignore the Lib Dems. The most interesting seat in the south will be Portsmouth South as that has been won by three different parties in the last three elections.
Ooh er! Castigated and vilified without mercy you'll have a queue of tory MPs at your front door.
I'll bite, but only a bit as you haven't named him. I've never vilified you Ides, and I haven't got the surgical instruments to castigate you
, I have just questioned your taste in heroes.I will continue to do so whenever I see a target.
You're dangerous. Turn it on Johnson, then.I'll bite, but only a bit as you haven't named him. I've never vilified you Ides, and I haven't got the surgical instruments to castigate you
I will continue to do so whenever I see a target.
If lib dems cant even agree not to stand in a marginal seat between tory and labour where they have no chance of winning then they are going to split the vote everywhere and Remain has no chance. Labour might still win itchen but remain wont win the more difficult seats it needs to.
Oh him! Chuka was on earlier, the slimeball, trying to justify the Lib Dems’ position. Peter Kyle completely owned him.
We don't need to turn our vitriol on Chuka, If we do, it means we are not focusing on the real target which should be to destory Johnson's credibility, his policies, his values and his beliefs, of which he has none. We need to take Mogg apart at every opportunity. We need to expose the likes of Rabb for their shallowness, Patel for her viciousness and so on. We need to show that Labour investing in the infrastructure is good, that its economic policies will work, that it aims to take people out of poverty.
Surely he will do that on his own.......!!........
I agree, Chuka is a complete irrelevance, let’s forget about him. I agree with your other points as well.
But, millions of us will still have to vote tactically. I have actually met the Lib Dem candidate for Wells, Tessa Munt, a few times and she was a great constituency MP between 2010 and 2015. Great in the sense that she actually cares about her constituents, and many people I know have said she does far more for her constituents than the sitting MP, fat Tory James Heappey, bothers to get off his arse and do. I will vote for Tessa, despite the fact that I despise her party leader Jo Swinson, who has in the last few days split the Remain campaign down the middle with her sectarian and divisive comments.
Unfortunately, Labour needs the LD’s to take Tory votes and Tory seats, just as the LD’s need Labour to do the same. The party leaders won’t agree on an electoral pact, so the voters will have to organise themselves.
Came across this trailer - The Spider's Web: Britain's Second Empire. I'll watch the full documentary later.
"At the demise of empire, City of London financial interests created a web of secrecy jurisdictions that captured wealth from across the globe and hid it in a web of offshore islands. Today, up to half of global offshore wealth is hidden in British jurisdictions and Britain and its dependencies are the largest global players in the world of international finance".
"At the demise of empire, City of London financial interests created a web of secrecy jurisdictions that captured wealth from across the globe and hid it in a web of offshore islands. Today, up to half of global offshore wealth is hidden in British jurisdictions and Britain and its dependencies are the largest global players in the world of international finance".
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This is my worry - the idiots who will be led by the rabid media (including social media) and will vote accordingly. If Corbyn was any good, he’d have held off for a People’s vote on Brexit before going to the country for a GE. Sadly, the lunatics are in charge of the asylum and we could end up giving the ultimate power to the extremists, crashing out of the EU, making those tossers richer and dooming this country to even more hardship and “austerity” (unless you’re one of the mega-rich
Really hope I’m proven wrong, but can’t help feeling this Christmas is going to be bleak ......
This is exactly it. Just what Pfeffel and his merry band wanted. Wise up, Lib Dems and Labour. TACTICAL voting is the only way!
They might even agree with you, BUT they will never say this publicly as it will be spun by the media etc. as defeatist.This is exactly it. Just what Pfeffel and his merry band wanted. Wise up, Lib Dems and Labour. TACTICAL voting is the only way!
If I was the lib dems I would spin it to attack the first past the post system for being **** and requiring tactical voting, and use voter annoyance at it to call for a change in the voting system.
This also has the benefit of being true. Wouldn't have this problem under AV.
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The Lib Dems should choose their ( for example) 150 best prospects and make it known that they are putting all their efforts into those, inviting Labour, Greens, Nats not to fight hard in those in return for no great effort into the other 500. I think the message might get through .
I agree.
Labour lost Southampton Itchen by 31 votes last time.
Lib Dem vote was nowhere near, but their clear message on Remain could harm the Labour vote.
But then again, it could also damage the Tory vote whose remainers, could see the LD as a like for like party and switch.
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