Suarez Revisited

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I think the world would be better off if most ex-footballers never opened their gobs in public at all.
I think this issue is so sensitive that all organisations have to be careful and circumspect. Including football clubs. I remember thinking and saying at the time we have to be careful here. We cannot be seen to be endorsing racism. Perception is everything and all organisations companies and clubs have to seen to have a policy of zero tolerance. Any slight deviation will see the broadcast media and social media having a field day .

Clubs receive a huge amount of revenue from international corporations. These will sever sponsorships as soon as there is a whiff of scandal. I can bet that they are more likely to drop a club for tolerance of racism than missing European competitions.
 
I think this issue is so sensitive that all organisations have to be careful and circumspect. Including football clubs. I remember thinking and saying at the time we have to be careful here. We cannot be seen to be endorsing racism. Perception is everything and all organisations companies and clubs have to seen to have a policy of zero tolerance. Any slight deviation will see the broadcast media and social media having a field day .

Clubs receive a huge amount of revenue from international corporations. These will sever sponsorships as soon as there is a whiff of scandal. I can bet that they are more likely to drop a club for tolerance of racism than missing European competitions.
I think you're right. The tshirts were meant to be a symbol of support for Suarez not racism. However, as we all know agendas come into play.
 
To be fair to all concerned it was a massive balls up.

The fa overreacted and came down very hard in some half arse attempt to look tough.

Lfc got it completely wrong on the pr front. Why it didnt occur to any one to just take a dignified stance and maybe come out looking ok from the whole ordeal.

Evra did himself no favours, I'm not sure but I dont think he lasted to long as a main player for utd long after.

And well Suarez got what he wanted in the end.
 
To be fair to all concerned it was a massive balls up.

The fa overreacted and came down very hard in some half arse attempt to look tough.

Lfc got it completely wrong on the pr front. Why it didnt occur to any one to just take a dignified stance and maybe come out looking ok from the whole ordeal.

Evra did himself no favours, I'm not sure but I dont think he lasted to long as a main player for utd long after.

And well Suarez got what he wanted in the end.

Evra moved on to another club where he started physically assaulting his own fans
 
To be fair to all concerned it was a massive balls up.

The fa overreacted and came down very hard in some half arse attempt to look tough.

Lfc got it completely wrong on the pr front. Why it didnt occur to any one to just take a dignified stance and maybe come out looking ok from the whole ordeal.

Evra did himself no favours, I'm not sure but I dont think he lasted to long as a main player for utd long after.

And well Suarez got what he wanted in the end.


Not so sure. He somehow came out of that looking like some modern day Rosa Parkes, and nowadays is foisted onto us at every opportunity by the social-liberal broadsheets as the poster boy for dignified, racial victhimhood. Seems completely forgotten that he tried to kick Suarez the whole game long (doubtless instructed to by Baconface), then tried to instigate a physical confrontation to get Suarez sent off by racially abusing him himself (exclamation my arse), then provably lied about the reasons why he changed his story, then promptly changed it again in cahoots with the FA 'prosecution' team when they realised what little VTR evidence they had.

Yet now he's Saint Evra of Your Sister's Pussy to Ferdinand's Rio X, and Martin Luther Ferguson, the man who instructed Schmeichal to say absolutely nothing when he'd been caught by a lip-reader on camera (the same as what happened to Terry) calling Ian Wright a 'Black bastard.' Even eight years later, you have to say that United couldn't have got out of this any better if they had well placed goons in several senior positions in the FA and the media. Which indeed they did (and still do).
 
Not so sure. He somehow came out of that looking like some modern day Rosa Parkes, and nowadays is foisted onto us at every opportunity by the social-liberal broadsheets as the poster boy for dignified, racial victhimhood. Seems completely forgotten that he tried to kick Suarez the whole game long (doubtless instructed to by Baconface), then tried to instigate a physical confrontation to get Suarez sent off by racially abusing him himself (exclamation my arse), then provably lied about the reasons why he changed his story, then promptly changed it again in cahoots with the FA 'prosecution' team when they realised what little VTR evidence they had.

Yet now he's Saint Evra of Your Sister's Pussy to Ferdinand's Rio X, and Martin Luther Ferguson, the man who instructed Schmeichal to say absolutely nothing when he'd been caught by a lip-reader on camera (the same as what happened to Terry) calling Ian Wright a 'Black bastard.' Even eight years later, you have to say that United couldn't have got out of this any better if they had well placed goons in several senior positions in the FA and the media. Which indeed they did (and still do).

I'm not sure what happened to evra, I know he moved on and I dont think it went to well at his new club like astro said.

I havnt really heard anything from him for a good while, rio on the other hand desperately wants to be some sort of celeb ex footballer, jumps on any bandwagon going to keep him in the lime light.

If flavour of the month was sticking nitting needles up your arse, hed be on the front page of the star showing off his latest jumper
 
Of course he won't, it will be swept under the rug with an offensively small fine and a promise to think about maybe attending a social media class just like Holgate's homophobia

Thats it, deflect from the real issue of institutionalised racism that runs through LFC.
 
Are we going to have a 'racism off' to see which club is/has been the most racist? Surely not because Everton won't come out looking too good.

For sure they wont, the club have a horrible history of it.
 
For sure they wont, the club have a horrible history of it.
So why make a huge, unsubstantiated claim about a rival?

I'm getting a bit fed up of fans from other teams going to the extreme end of the scale when they don't like what's been said by a Liverpool fan. There really is no need. If you can't debate a subject, why participate on a forum.
 
To be fair to all concerned it was a massive balls up.

The fa overreacted and came down very hard in some half arse attempt to look tough.

Lfc got it completely wrong on the pr front. Why it didnt occur to any one to just take a dignified stance and maybe come out looking ok from the whole ordeal.

Evra did himself no favours, I'm not sure but I dont think he lasted to long as a main player for utd long after.

And well Suarez got what he wanted in the end.
What annoys me the most is the whole basis of Evras argument was how the use of the n word had made him feel
The use age of the word was never proved

however it was proved that Evra had used that word and that’s what bothers me

rappers use the word regularly - it is a way of talking See it’s use pulp fiction etc

you cannot say it is okay from one group of people to use the word and one group of people are not allowed

context is absolutely irrelevant
The word is either acceptable or it is not
Current protocol is that it is not nor is - banter - hence the problems at city

if that is the case then Evra should also have faced action
The double standards were rife because no one knew/knows how to deal with the issue

I don’t see it improving common sense has long since departed the room