Serious takeover talk
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He really isn’t going to come out of this well... he built up some real goodwill among fans... shame if he dismantled that
You can't bank goodwill mate.
He's a businessman with zero allegiance to Sunderland or the NE.
When he's gone he'll never be seen north of Leicester ever again.
Is this something to do with the Facebook message that was pm'd to you?
I haven't seen it, so was wondering if that was the jist of the pm.
That was about past financial arrangements.
I'm talking about changing the goalposts with the Americans for his own benefit.
Ah for ****s sake. Hopefully he doesn't let this slip by. After all, if it does we might not go up and he'll have a club worth even less, with more annoyed supporters, there's no reason for him to stay. If they were trying to **** him over I'd be on his side, we can't expect him to go for nowt, but if he's moving the goalposts we need to hope he doesn't screw this up
This, he's helped steady the ship and should be able to claim a profit for his work.
Well.....as much as I agree with the above for him to make profit and be rewarded for his efforts, He is an insurance man at the end of the day, they like to manipulate the small print and go back on their word (all allegedly of course). Hope i'm wrong though
Aye, he definitely deserves a profit. He doesn't deserve tens of millions like but he should make money from it. Sounds like he's potentially being unreasonable though. Mind the one thing I don't get is this idea that he's just a hard nosed businessman who doesn't really give a ****. That doesn't totally tally with buying Eastleigh and doing much the same as here in terms of supporter engagement etc. There's not much (if any) money to be made at that level for an owner, he seemingly spent a bit on it, didn't make anything when he went. So there must be a part of him that simply enjoys being involved with a club and that wouldn't **** a club over.
We just need to hope he sees sense, that the Americans maybe compromise a bit (within reason), that he can make a canny, but fair, profit and that he gets this over the line. Sounds like they were ****ed about by Ashley and walked away, so he must know he can't push too far here, and maybe the fan backlash to it looking like it had broken down will make him think twice about letting them walk!
He might have cut costs but we are in a worse position in terms of points, goals scored and everything else this season than we were last season. I’m not entirely sure that warrants making a profit tbh.
He didn't take a wage and has worked hard to be fair to him, and if his work has got us in a position whereby people like this want us (when they'd have ran a mile when he bought it even with Short writing debt off) then I think he definitely deserves a profit.
Mind, reading between the lines of @Smug in Boots posts it isn't about money necessarily, not money now anyway. I'm going to second guess you here smug, you've always talked about a staffing issue. You now say it's Donald. Donald isn't staff, if it was just him wanting more money that wouldn't be a staffing issue. So, again reading between the lines, it's all about Donald wanting to stay on in some capacity. If I had to guess, he thinks these lads can get us to the prem where the value of the club might increase ten fold, he maybe wants a decent shareholding when that happens but doesn't want to (or can't) match them pound for pound per share in terms of investment in the interim.
So he wants a lot of money in the future for not much, a lot more than his work thus far warrants. Feel free to tell me if I'm miles out smug, but I guess I won't be. And it tallies with Donald saying he hasn't tried to renegotiate price, he won't have, it'll likely be future money that's got pound signs in his eyes
For all his fine words about training ross has been sending out an underprepared team since day 1.
We have never looked fit despite 18 mths to do so.
The team never had a clue when challenged physically and the smarter managers like bowyer, barton, stendel, Appleton read him like janet and john book.
Besides all this his right hand flunky remains. You'd think this was a chance to put himself in the window
Which is why he wanted the club in the first place.
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