Serious takeover talk

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Sin Semilla said:
Said in an Interview with BBC Newcastle that he didn't have faith in Ross getting us promoted.
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He did, but why didn't he take action Saturday night/Sunday and then allow Ross to continue as normal until hours before a game? Donald knew how the fans felt after Bolton and the performance at Lincoln was disgraceful.

I've also read that Fowler has been asked to take training today and tomorrow.

Everything is pointing towards something on Friday.
 
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Ned Doig said:
He did, but why didn't he take action Saturday night/Sunday and then allow Ross to continue as normal until hours before a game? Donald knew how the fans felt after Bolton and the performance at Lincoln was disgraceful.

I've also read that Fowler has been asked to take training today and tomorrow.

Everything is pointing towards something on Friday.
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I doubt this but also thought if he has been told to get rid he can’t exactly tly come out and say that can he?
 
Ned Doig said:
He did, but why didn't he take action Saturday night/Sunday and then allow Ross to continue as normal until hours before a game? Donald knew how the fans felt after Bolton and the performance at Lincoln was disgraceful.

I've also read that Fowler has been asked to take training today and tomorrow.

Everything is pointing towards something on Friday.
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Sam Alladyce said yesterday on total sport (I know, I know--I don't listen to it) that he is open to discussions with any team :emoticon-0105-wink::emoticon-0105-wink:
 
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old lads fan said:
Or is he just a lying clueless ****er that makes up **** for a living
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I think he's got a few things right about us tbh. The straw I'm clutching is that he got things right about the Campbell deal, that means (as you'd expect) his source (which I believe he has) is from the Sunderland side. If he had a source on the MSD side saying it was off then it would likely be accurate. If it's from the Sunderland side then it could (again, I know I'm straw clutching) have been said by the Americans as a form of brinkmanship, the source would think that was it, Nixon would thus be as confident as he is, but there might still be a chance that Donald can get it over the line if he makes concessions/ changes the deal
 
If, as the rumours suggest, MSD are worried about promotion not being achieved you can see why Ross has gone. Maybe it was a statement of intent to try and get everything sorted. By that I mean that things were slowing down, stalling, and it's the last card Donald could play to convince them. Less than two weeks ago, Donald was very confident.
 
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Guinness Guzzler said:
Something definitely happened, don't care how many people don't believe it! They could have sacked him straight after the game, or on the Monday. Instead it is announced right about the same time as the "takeover off" story is breaking, and even though safc.com had just (about 4 hours earlier) posted an article with Ross chatting about the Grimsby match. If they knew (Donald was discussing it with Ross etc) for a couple of days that it was likely, I doubt they'd have interviewed him or published that. The fact they did, added to the timing being right about the time something obviously happened with the takeover makes me think it must be linked. I could understand if the takeover was off and this was Donald moving on, but he's stated repeatedly that this isn't the case, and I doubt he'd string people along if all talks had actually collapsed
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Next season in division 1 is not an option for the yanks- and that is what i have heard and believe- donald had to act, and cancel that home game
 
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Sin Semilla said:
Said in an Interview with BBC Newcastle that he didn't have faith in Ross getting us promoted.
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Really?

I'm must have misread it when reading a thread on here or over the road.

Well that chips away at some of the logic underlying my assumption.

Never mind, the truth will out.
 
Left For Dead said:
Next season in division 1 is not an option for the yanks- and that is what i have heard and believe- donald had to act, and cancel that home game
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I've heard meeting on Friday. Absolutely no reason to doubt the lad who messaged me about it and it's not breaking any confidences because he has also mentioned it on the main board over the road. Guess we'll find out soon enough. I'm confident that we'll hear nowt until then (maybe even until the weekend) but since I believe him I can't help but think Jack Ross going will be somehow linked, especially given the timings. Like I say all we can do really is wait and see, won't stop us discussing it all day though <laugh>
 
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Zak's Dad said:
Really?

I'm must have misread it when reading a thread on here or over the road.

Well that chips away at some of the logic underlying my assumption.

Never mind, the truth will out.
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Aye, he said he thinks Ross will go on to do well elsewhere but that he had to think about what would give us the best chance of promotion and he decided letting Ross go was the right call
 
Guinness Guzzler said:
Aye, he said he thinks Ross will go on to do well elsewhere but that he had to think about what would give us the best chance of promotion and he decided letting Ross go was the right call
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That'll teach me to skim read threads at work.

I'm better off going "full skive" and reading them properly.

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Guinness Guzzler said:
I think he's got a few things right about us tbh. The straw I'm clutching is that he got things right about the Campbell deal, that means (as you'd expect) his source (which I believe he has) is from the Sunderland side. If he had a source on the MSD side saying it was off then it would likely be accurate. If it's from the Sunderland side then it could (again, I know I'm straw clutching) have been said by the Americans as a form of brinkmanship, the source would think that was it, Nixon would thus be as confident as he is, but there might still be a chance that Donald can get it over the line if he makes concessions/ changes the deal
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According to Nixon his source is the Americans ! he replied simply 'ask the americans' when confronted by a sunderland fan saying SD says it's still on ! he then goes on to suggest theres another party and that's why SD hasn't confirmed the americans have pulled out using the line " if you're are selling your house and you have more than one party interested would you tell the other buyer the competition is no longer interested?" he's either a complete liar and doesn't care about making his employer look silly or he's very confident in his source .
 
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sheepman said:
Watching Fowler's interview after the game made me think that the timing of the sacking was a shock and came out of the blue
He looked upset and shocked saying it game late in the day. Looks like they were preparing for the game as normal
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Agreed, something not quite right, hopefully we will find out on Friday
 
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class of 2019 said:
According to Nixon his source is the Americans ! he replied simply 'ask the americans' when confronted by a sunderland fan saying SD says it's still on ! he then goes on to suggest theres another party and that's why SD hasn't confirmed the americans have pulled out using the line " if you're are selling your house and you have more than one party interested would you tell the other buyer the competition is no longer interested?" he's either a complete liar and doesn't care about making his employer look silly or he's very confident in his source .
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I just don't see how he'd even move in their circles tbh. A source linked to SAFC, yeah, I can totally believe that, like I say especially when he's got things right before about us. It might be that the source is from SAFC but that he is certain it's finished, so his "ask the Americans" might just be a case of meaning "Donald would say it's ongoing if there's other bidders, but if you ask them I bet they'd give a different response, rather than being a suggestion it's come from them. I don't see how or why anyone remotely linked to MSD would speak to Alan Nixon from the Sun
 
Guinness Guzzler said:
I just don't see how he'd even move in their circles tbh. A source linked to SAFC, yeah, I can totally believe that, like I say especially when he's got things right before about us. It might be that the source is from SAFC but that he is certain it's finished, so his "ask the Americans" might just be a case of meaning "Donald would say it's ongoing if there's other bidders, but if you ask them I bet they'd give a different response, rather than being a suggestion it's come from them. I don't see how or why anyone remotely linked to MSD would speak to Alan Nixon from the Sun
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they will have people everywhere sniffing about in trench coats and trilbies, but he certainly didn't back down on twitter last night … what he's suggested is that there's another party , so either way it sound to be good news pending on investment, but it might not be soon and it might not be dell backing it.
 
class of 2019 said:
they will have people everywhere sniffing about in trench coats and trilbies, but he certainly didn't back down on twitter last night … what he's suggested is that there's another party , so either way it sound to be good news pending on investment
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Yeah, I don't think he's a ****ehawk tbh, I'm sure he has a source who says the American interest is finished and I'm sure both Nixon and the source believe it. I'd still love to know what side of the fence the source is from though! My personal option is that it'll end up being minority investment from one or maybe two of them.
 
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Guinness Guzzler said:
I just don't see how he'd even move in their circles tbh. A source linked to SAFC, yeah, I can totally believe that, like I say especially when he's got things right before about us. It might be that the source is from SAFC but that he is certain it's finished, so his "ask the Americans" might just be a case of meaning "Donald would say it's ongoing if there's other bidders, but if you ask them I bet they'd give a different response, rather than being a suggestion it's come from them. I don't see how or why anyone remotely linked to MSD would speak to Alan Nixon from the Sun
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Think someone posted that Nixon started blocking people once they started questioning his source and links to the Americans.
 
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