Off Topic Climate Strike
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Generally people and governments do what they think is right at that time, I can just remember steam trains giving way to diesel and later the introduction of electric ones. When i was a kid every house had an open fire, over time smokeless zones were introduced and later all council houses went onto gas or electric. Remember when most cars ran on leaded petrol, first the switch to unleaded and the onto diesel. To suggest all these things and others were not pre planned things to better the planet and people living on it is a bit nieve to say the least.
As knowledge and technology move forward we learn more and hope to improve things. Sometime the experts get it wrong, before my time but cigarettes were advertised as good for your health, recommended by Doktors. Plastic was a great thing with many benefits when it was first invented, now its use and more importantly how people dispose of it has become a huge problem. Who knows what we will discover in the coming years, are mobile phones bad for the brain? will the kids of today and their kids evolve and start to be born with hand defects because of constant use of mobile devices? Who knows what things we are doing today will turn out to be bad for the planet and its inhabitants?
This whole thread is so full of strawmen it's a wonder some oiks haven't tied up Humberside Fire and Rescue for the duration. People either understand the science and the implications or they don't (or won't) believe it because they don't want to change. There's no point blaming generations, we've known about the effects of changing our atmosphere since the mid 19th century and others are only just learning about it the hard way. Europe **** it's pants when 2 million Syrian refugees rocked up, **** knows what they're gonna do when 2 billion climate refugees, desperate for water and food, start turning up on our 'I've got mine, **** you' doormat.
Our generation protested against the use of CFCs. Now they're banned and the damage is almost repaired.
We don't, but as you said, we have better science now and we realise that the impact of climate change is already being felt. Before, it was a doomsday prediction but now we're actually seeing it in action. However, we knew that burning fossil fuels released noxious gases and that those gases had to go into the atmosphere, it wasn't as though we thought they dissipated into nothing. CFCs were a big problem when I was growing up and thankfully now most fridges use different systems.
There'll be a tonne of stuff we do now that isn't good for us, but the difference now is we can spot it and act on it much quicker than our predecessors could.
Well we're on the same wavelength then. But that, coupled with the switch to unleaded fuel should have been the catalyst for green energy, but it wasn't.
In any event, I suppose the past is irrelevant now, so I was wrong to bring it up, but it's no excuse now given the awareness people have.
If people get annoyed by Greta Thunburg, good. Great, even. People don't have to like her, just listen to what she's saying and help push those in power to act upon it. And if people end up making a small change, she's done her job.
Your last sentence suggests reasonable debate isn't part of your make up.I was born in the year of the bay of pigs invasion,in my days it was polite to respect your elders and swearing in correspondence was a big no-no!!!(how things have went downhill since).
I lived in a house where if you were the youngest you got the dirtiest bathwater,you took old clothes out to the ragman,your Dad took his beer bottles back to the pub and on a Saturday you could take your saved up newspapers to the chippy and you were rewarded with a bag of scraps.
As for 'toast'....we did that on an open coal fire in the only heated room in the house and thanked the Lord that we had received it!!!
Big Macs....No thanks.
I absolutely agree. I didn't know anything about her apart from a brief mention in the news until this thread. She's not trying to teach generations before hers, she's trying to inform her own, because we can't afford another generation like those that have gone before.
You're missing quite a chunk with that version, such as the media involvement, as well as the work done by many that came before. Some seem to get a feel good sensation by talking about her as if she's Mother Teresa and assuming anyone that strays from the media driven version must be ignorant of the facts and someone to be preached at.
I pointed out some of the implications, and I've yet to see any meaningful reply on here.
That's a year old. Some companies in China were found to be using CFC's using satellite data and their directors were jailed.