Greta Thunberg

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Diego said:
I am not dismissing her but we all know from "the thread that shall not be named" that young people are easy to brain wash, indoctrinate, subvert, especially from the age of eight.
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Is that the 'Young people are easy to brain wash, indoctrinate & subvert' thread ?
 
Willhoops said:
Ok if the message is right, if changes need to be made.... what exactly does anything else bare any importance? Again let’s stick to what points she is raising
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I have no problem with the message, I just wory about the way she is being used at such a young age.
She is not bringing any new points to the situation, she is just repeating what has been said a thousand times before over the last few years but people are making use of the emotional pull of the young. It's wrong and you should know that.
 
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Diego said:
Well unless there is a massive and rapid change in energy production there could possibly be limitations on it's use for a start.
Then we come to international travel, we are not close yet to electric planes or cargo ships as far as I know so these could be limited to "necessary" only use.
Gas use is being phased out in new build homes so when a substation goes down somewhere in winter people will be without any means of heating, washing or cooking (nice one).
Certain animals (sheep, cows, pigs) will become extinct or maybe zoo only (at least future kids will still get to see them).
I am pretty sure you can think of many more not quite so dramatic if you tried but would prefer not to, I have gone extreme (but possible) because we are talking extremes with climate change.
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We are very close to hydrogen powered cargo ships and shorthaul electric passenger planes.
The domestic home is moving towards having solar with storage, meaning the loss of a substation wold only be a problem if it's out for a significant time.

I get very tired of fairy tales to scare people away from reducing carbon emmisions. It does not require everything to stop using the combustion engine, it will still be perfectly reasonable to have some bio fuels where electric/hydrogen isnt practical.
 
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BobbyD said:
Thats a good start.

I was talking about coal plants being built in china (i read somewhere and also chinas renewable sector) <cheers>
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I mentioned on another thread that new proposed coal stations in china are almost non existent, problem is those already being built and already in service have lifetimes of up to 50 years
 
Blueman said:
And still nothing will change. We didn't need a girl to tell us that something needs to be done regarding climate change, we already knew. It's old hat. Too much money and self interest involved. Sad but true.
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Things will change, they have to. The problem is it will take time and having some 16yo screaming "how dare you" and demanding action now is not helping. Has nobody noticed that most governments are pushing renewable energy production and reductions in emissions, do people not realise that the information Greta is imparting has come from the IPCC which was set up by the UN.
Our lives/world is set up to use fossil fuels and has been since man lit the first fire, this is going to take a while to change.

Think of the poor African children in the cobalt mines gathering material for batteries next time you drive your electric car :emoticon-0105-wink:
 
Diego said:
Things will change, they have to. The problem is it will take time and having some 16yo screaming "how dare you" and demanding action now is not helping. Has nobody noticed that most governments are pushing renewable energy production and reductions in emissions, do people not realise that the information Greta is imparting has come from the IPCC which was set up by the UN.
Our lives/world is set up to use fossil fuels and has been since man lit the first fire, this is going to take a while to change.

Think of the poor African children in the cobalt mines gathering material for batteries next time you drive your electric car :emoticon-0105-wink:
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Which is why the latest batteries are almost cobalt free.

What is your issue with scienists reporting through the UN?
 
Looney Leftie said:
We are very close to hydrogen powered cargo ships and shorthaul electric passenger planes.
The domestic home is moving towards having solar with storage, meaning the loss of a substation wold only be a problem if it's out for a significant time.

I get very tired of fairy tales to scare people away from reducing carbon emmisions. It does not require everything to stop using the combustion engine, it will still be perfectly reasonable to have some bio fuels where electric/hydrogen isnt practical.
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So we are doing something about it then?
That's a relief, I thought only Greta knew about the problem :emoticon-0105-wink:
 
Diego said:
Things will change, they have to. The problem is it will take time and having some 16yo screaming "how dare you" and demanding action now is not helping. Has nobody noticed that most governments are pushing renewable energy production and reductions in emissions, do people not realise that the information Greta is imparting has come from the IPCC which was set up by the UN.
Our lives/world is set up to use fossil fuels and has been since man lit the first fire, this is going to take a while to change.

Think of the poor African children in the cobalt mines gathering material for batteries next time you drive your electric car :emoticon-0105-wink:
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I don't drive. See, I'm a real climate changer.<laugh>
 
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Looney Leftie said:
Which is why the latest batteries are almost cobalt free.

What is your issue with scienists reporting through the UN?
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Again, I have no problem at all with that, it's what they were set up to do.
I just wonder why Greta has to go to the UN to convey their findings.

Emotional world wide use of a young girl who shouldn't be having her childhood stolen from her.
 
Diego said:
Again, I have no problem at all with that, it's what they were set up to do.
I just wonder why Greta has to go to the UN to convey their findings.

Emotional world wide use of a young girl who shouldn't be having her childhood stolen from her.
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She's having a wider experience during her childhood than most parents could possibly dream of. It's clearly something she feels passionate about and wants to do.
 
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People use kids to promote allsorts of things...they belong on planet Earth too and sometimes some kids have more sense than some adults...I reckon she's got more grey matter than Constable for a start.

Many have admitted that they don't care about the environment...that's fine...**** off and let others do what they think is best innit.

I don't for one minute believe ANY of you 'care' about her welfare...she probably just pricks a few of yours consciousness so like you tell your own kids to stfu when they speak 'out of turn' and make you feel uncomfortable...you're doing the same with her...but you can only do so much over a screen

Granted she looks like a psycho bitch and I reckon she's a right **** amongst other children...got that Damien stare about her...but nevertheless...let her crack on...ignore her if you think she's chatting **** but don't cry outrage on behalf of ****ing Politicians

Lol you guise make me laugh


Off to roll a spliff
 
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Spurlock said:
People use kids to promote allsorts of things...they belong on planet Earth too and sometimes some kids have more sense than some adults...I reckon she's got more grey matter than Constable for a start.

Many have admitted that they don't care about the environment...that's fine...**** off and let others do what they think is best innit.

I don't for one minute believe ANY of you 'care' about her welfare...she probably just pricks a few of yours consciousness so like you tell your own kids to stfu when they speak 'out of turn' and make you feel uncomfortable...you're doing the same with her...but you can only do so much over a screen

Granted she looks like a psycho bitch and I reckon she's a right **** amongst other children...got that Damien state about her...but nevertheless...let her crack on...ignore her if you think she's chatting **** but don't cry outrage on behalf of ****ing Politicians

Lol you guise make me laugh


Off to roll a spliff
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I appear to be missing the indignation for 16 year old swimmers and gymnasts who've given up their childhood to be top of their sport.
 
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Diego said:
Again, I have no problem at all with that, it's what they were set up to do.
I just wonder why Greta has to go to the UN to convey their findings.

Emotional world wide use of a young girl who shouldn't be having her childhood stolen from her.
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I tell you what steals young girls childhoods...when people let them dress like slutty teens and encourage them to take the likes of Little Mix as "innocent" role models...not someone who is talking about the future of our planet with adults that have clout.

Don't any of us real talk with their kids ever? That's all it is...some real talk.
 
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Diego said:
Again, I have no problem at all with that, it's what they were set up to do.
I just wonder why Greta has to go to the UN to convey their findings.

Emotional world wide use of a young girl who shouldn't be having her childhood stolen from her.
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Hold up mate, I left school at 15....I was in full time employment from my 16th birthday. You saying I had my childhood stolen. Fooking bastards!
 
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