I totally agree with this. But we are where we are, none of the political class have covered themselves in glory on this issue. We certainly should not have triggered Article 50 until we had a very clear line of approach. The 400 plus MP’s who nodded it through did not test the readiness of the Government at the time to enter a negotiation. I certainly supported the view that if all negotiations proved pointless, then the EU at that point would know we would leave, but we never had the ducks lined up and they (EU) knew that Theresa May didn’t believe what she said about ‘no deal’. Listening to Cameron’s original Downing Street announcement about the decision to hold the referendum reminded me why I voted to remain. Since then I have moved to a soft leaver as I’m now convinced that his hope of reform etc within the the EU, which I believe he thought would take place, therefore better in than out for the UK, is not going to happen.
Yeah, he did say that. But the people campaigning for the Leave campaign said the exact opposite, and accused him of using “Project Fear” rhetoric.
Long before he was an international pariah, he was responsible for the death and torture of tens of thousands, but no one particularly cared because he was targeting other black Zimbabweans. Robert Mugabe could have been a great man. He chose to be a powerful one. It's a shame this day didn't come much sooner.
Even more damning evidence that the referendum was fraudulent and that the corruption was backed with money from Russia: https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/brexit/2018...backed-fraud-means-the-referendum-is-invalid/
Scintillating stuff from Mark Steel in the Independent. I laughed out loud: https://www.independent.co.uk/voice...-johnson-brexit-debate-election-a9093471.html
Thanks again Chilcs, chilling and even more reason to extend until the end of the year possibly beyond
Yes, indeed, because the High Court case to nullify the result of the referendum doesn’t start until 7th December, so if we’ve left by then it will be even more of a mess. I’m looking forward to Brexiters replacing “the will of the people” with “the will of Vladimir Putin”!
And now Putin’s buying everyone a pint... https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-brexit-tim-martin-profits-pubs-a9094066.html
Boris (if he hasn’t resigned) and his little cabal plan to fight the next election under the slogan “Trust The People”. I don’t trust The People much myself tbh. But will The People trust Boris?
Thrust the people mmm. The people need a bit of education as to the role of their MP. I've quoted Edmund Burke in past posts but relevant now given the "rebel" tories. Turning in his grave, he'll be doing more revolutions then Shane Warne's finest delivery. “Your representative owes you, not his industry only, but his judgement; and he betrays instead of serving you if he sacrifices it to your opinion”. “Parliament is not a congress of ambassadors from different and hostile interests; which interests each must maintain, as an agent and advocate, against other agents and advocates; but parliament is a deliberative assembly of our nation, with one interest, that of the whole; where, not local purposes, not local prejudices ought to guide, but the general good, resulting from the general reason of the whole. You choose a member indeed; but when you have chosen him, he is not a member of Bristol, but he is a member of parliament”.
Also worth repeating the words of Winston Churchill in “Duties of a Member of Parliament” in 1955. Churchill would be turning in his grave at the shoddy, self-serving scumbags who currently run his party, but would no doubt be proud of his grandson Nicholas Soames and the other Tory rebels who put the nation’s interest first on Wednesday evening: “The first duty of a member of Parliament is to do what he thinks in his faithful and disinterested judgement is right and necessary for the honour and safety of Great Britain. His second duty is to his constituents, of whom he is the representative but not the delegate. Burke's famous declaration on this subject is well known. It is only in the third place that his duty to party organization or programme takes rank. All these three loyalties should be observed, but there is no doubt of the order in which they stand under any healthy manifestation of democracy.”
Here’s a useful little link to use in arguments with people who complain about the amount of hard-earned cash we send to the EU. Have a go and guess before you press the calculator button! https://euworthit.uk/
