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I've already said its not fantastic, but its not crap. You can't honestly say anyone else's midfield is better.
People like you slated Fletcher for years, saying he should have been sold then did a U-turn.

Its very very easy to say "Its not my job" but all this says is that you are clueless.
Bowyer? Piss off.
Tiote? Right so we should sell player's like Gibson who hasn't hit his career form, or sell player's like Carrick who has good games and average games or instead buy another player that is as you describe average.
Adam would have cost us £15m, fifteen ****ing million!.

The best call would be Modric who we'd be looking at probably £30-£40m or Kranjkar on loan, who wants to leave a lesser team for not playing often.

You can't seriously say our midfield is better than Chelsea's. Are you having a laugh?
 
Who listened to the sky sports prediction thing?


Merry we have 2 options we moan and groan even though that will do nothing or we support our manager and team. We always come out of it and we will again and I am certain about this but in the summer these issues will and MUST be sorted out. However, we are not in the summer. We will have to figure away around this issue and our manager is the best person for it.
 
It would have been a worthwhile punt, as the midfield is a hindrence, not a help. We shouldn't have needed to gamble at this stage of the season. The problem should have been addressed last summer.

The problem with taking a punt is that we already have five central midfielders - Scholes, Fletcher, Carrick, Gibson and Anderson. If you sign another then you effectively force at least one of them out. Scholes still has quality, Fletcher and Carrick are both decent players who are off form, and Anderson and Gibson both have plenty of potential. You risk losing one of those for someone who will be no better and will take ages to fit into the team. It would have been a worthwhile punt if we were third now, but we're four points clear with Park and Valencia still to come back, so it's hard to argue we'd have done better with a different central midfield.
 
Who listened to the sky sports prediction thing?


Merry we have 2 options we moan and groan even though that will do nothing or we support our manager and team. We always come out of it and we will again and I am certain about this but in the summer these issues will and MUST be sorted out. However, we are not in the summer. We will have to figure away around this issue and our manager is the best person for it.

You're confusing me mow as you're actually sounding like a United fan here! <laugh> You're right. I've ranted enough. Hoping for a derby win and everything will be right with the world again!
 
They'll probably drop a couple of points but their run in is very kind. They have Fulham away next week which could prove tricky as they're in decent form.
 
Merrysuperstevie and Stretty need to stop throwing paddy's.
How arrogant is it to call Sporting Lisbon our feeder club?.
If Quieroz reccomended and over-saw the signing of Ronaldo then he did FAR more than Arsene Wenger did, a man with a mythical reputation of seeing talent. £12m for Ronaldo or £15m for Reyes? not a difficult decision is it.
Bebe, well who know's. SAF trusts his scout's and as well he should, they brought in Vidic and Evra for a grand total of £12m.
What's the worst case scenario? That Bebe goes out on loan to Wigan or someone in a year or two, do you not think we will recoup £4m?
We need to buy x amount of players to either keep or then sell, flops are a necassary evil.

You're the kind of fan's that have been slagging Rooney off for the past few months, and Berbatov for 2 season's before that.

So far i've heard 3 names mentioned. Modric, who'd cost a fortune. Ozil, who we spoke to and he obviously wasn't interested or wanted to much money.
How many player's have you scouted over the years? 0. Its very easy to criticize someone when you've NEVER done their job.
Maybe it's the fault of the championship manager generation, people think they can ACTUALLY do what a computer says it can.

And do you think you're telling anyone something they don't know that our midfield isn't fantastic (It certainly isn't crap).
What have Essien/Mikel/Lampard acheived?
Barry/Milner/Vierra?
Fabregas and Song? Seriously you think this is a better midfield than ours? Fabregas yes.
VDV/Modric is the best Midfield in the league so far. VDV would have cost us a fortune.

All this is a sore loser attitude. Team's ARE allowed to use tactic's asgainst us away from home, on a pitch we aren't used to in front of their home crowd. Should we be expected to play free-flowing football even if it was on your local field?.
It takes away the great achievement Wolves deserved.

I'll take 1 loss in every 25 thankyou very much. I'd also like to add that we've missed imo last season's best signing, our level best player last season and without doubt the best crosser of the ball in the premiership. Valencia and Rooney are a frightening combination.

Fickle isn't the word for "supporters" like yourselves. In fact i'm ashamed to call myself a supporter alongside yourselves.

Where to start with this utter **** you have just typed. Well firstly they were our feeder club, do your reasearch.

Bebe is a pub player, ****ing awful, touch of a donkey. Now Im no scout but to buy utter **** like that is mind boggling. Waste of bleeding money.

I have not slagged off rooney at all this year I will kindly inform you, even when he handed in his transfer request, he has done far too much for the club.

Berbatov did get slated, because he was not good enough for two years. Just because he is doing well now doesnt erase the fact he was just hovering above average for the first two season. Call it as I see it.


What have Essien/Mikel/Lampard acheived?
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Yes that midfeild is better than ours. No arguing that Im afraid.

Barry/Milner/Vierra?
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Stop being so disingenuous - There midfeild is Milner - Y. toure - De jong - Silva - Adam johnson- And yes i would take that over ours. 4 of those players I would take over any of our midfeilders bar Nani.


Fabregas and Song? Seriously you think this is a better midfield than ours? Fabregas yes.
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Once again disingenuous. Fabregas is probably the best creative midfeilder in the league. Wilshere would get in our team, Nasri would, Ramsey would, song is a water carrier and no better than any of ours but the rest of their midfeild is better than ours.
VDV/Modric is the best Midfield in the league so far. VDV would have cost us a fortune.
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No he wouldnt. Spurs were the only team to bid for him. The Bayern 18 million bid the day before is a myth that has been denied by both clubs and the player, the only german club he had any interest in going to was hamburg. Real were desperate to get rid. They had been for a year, the only reason he was at real last year was because his wife had cancer and the club understood that leaving madrid for him and his family was impossible under the circumstances so they let him stay another year. But he wasnt wanted. So was never going to command top dollar. So how can you tell me he would have cost a foirtune? Even had he cost 15-18 million that would still be decent value.

Valencia is not going to get his place back either way regardless of his crossing. Nani is our best player outside of defence, and he is not going to get dropped or pushed out left because he is half the player there and valencia isnt as good as him as a player so will be no more than a good impact sub. Nani is undroppable.

We have played free flowing football about twice this year.

Fickle? **** off. If I think a player is not up to task or is not playing well I will damm well say so. And I dont give a flying one if you dont like it.
 
Not overhyping them stating they have a lot of quality. Which they do. And that were lacking Cm which we are. Dont see the problem myself.
 
i got the impression half of us seemed to think they are a certainty for the title. the fact all of the contenders had a bad week will hopefully help to stop all the doom and gloom
 
Stretty ballshit. Chelsea is dead as a football team. There players are all old and drogba, terry, cole, maloud, anelka, lampard are all past there best days. Torres has been poor for a while now
 
i got the impression half of us seemed to think they are a certainty for the title. the fact all of the contenders had a bad week will hopefully help to stop all the doom and gloom


Wheres the doom and gloom? Its not doom and gloom to say our midfeild is average, its realistic, no one is saying were going to get relegated here.
 
Stretty have you watched Chelsea this season? Or do you base it on fifa or last season? There team is old slow and finished. Drogba is nearly 33. Malouda is near 32 and Lampard too and Terry and Cole and Malouda is 21. They will need to spend 100s of millions and with the new uefa rules they can't afford to. Utd need to change the central midfield but thats stating the obvious. Chelsea as a title challenger is gone for atleast 4 years now. Spurs and Arsenal and City are the real threats and dare I say Liverpool.
 
Where to start with this utter **** you have just typed. Well firstly they were our feeder club, do your reasearch.

Bebe is a pub player, ****ing awful, touch of a donkey. Now Im no scout but to buy utter **** like that is mind boggling. Waste of bleeding money.

How long has he been with us?. How many premier league games has he started?. How many premier league sub appearances has he made?.
You've not addressed the fact that with a loan spell elsewhere he'd improve and its likely in a worse case scenario we'd recoup the £4m.
So we buy a player, it doesn't work out and we sell them on. This is part of the process i'm afraid.



Berbatov did get slated, because he was not good enough for two years. Just because he is doing well now doesnt erase the fact he was just hovering above average for the first two season. Call it as I see it.

And you see it incorrectly. Berbatov is playing no differently. Fickle fan's are happier because he's scoring.


What have Essien/Mikel/Lampard acheived?
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Yes that midfeild is better than ours. No arguing that Im afraid.

On paper maybe, as would their strike force and possibly their defence.
Again, what is their midfield acheiving?


Barry/Milner/Vierra?
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Stop being so disingenuous - There midfeild is Milner - Y. toure - De jong - Silva - Adam johnson- And yes i would take that over ours. 4 of those players I would take over any of our midfeilders bar Nani.

Sorry? Are we including Winger's in this also?
You'd have Silva and Johnson over Nani/Valencia?



Fabregas and Song? Seriously you think this is a better midfield than ours? Fabregas yes.
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Once again disingenuous. Fabregas is probably the best creative midfeilder in the league. Wilshere would get in our team, Nasri would, Ramsey would, song is a water carrier and no better than any of ours but the rest of their midfeild is better than ours.

Again winger's? Who would you drop for Nasri then?
What have Wilshere or Ramsey done? Neither have even been first choice for an inferior side to our's.


VDV/Modric is the best Midfield in the league so far. VDV would have cost us a fortune.
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No he wouldnt. Spurs were the only team to bid for him. The Bayern 18 million bid the day before is a myth that has been denied by both clubs and the player, the only german club he had any interest in going to was hamburg. Real were desperate to get rid. They had been for a year, the only reason he was at real last year was because his wife had cancer and the club understood that leaving madrid for him and his family was impossible under the circumstances so they let him stay another year. But he wasnt wanted. So was never going to command top dollar. So how can you tell me he would have cost a foirtune? Even had he cost 15-18 million that would still be decent value.

What world do you live in? Real Madrid wouldn't sell us a ****ing bucket of sick for the same money they'd sell it to someone else, and Vice Versa.
What a ****ing idiot.


Valencia is not going to get his place back either way regardless of his crossing. Nani is our best player outside of defence, and he is not going to get dropped or pushed out left because he is half the player there and valencia isnt as good as him as a player so will be no more than a good impact sub. Nani is undroppable.

Nani will switch back but only when Valencia is completely in his stride. Rooney scored for fun alongside Valencia.



Fickle? **** off. If I think a player is not up to task or is not playing well I will damm well say so. And I dont give a flying one if you dont like it.

Right so Berbatov gets a hat-trick and then doesn't do so well in the next game. He goes from being fantastic to being ****.
You are fickle, and you've admitted it with your comments about Berbatov.
Some of us supported Berbatov from when he slipped on the united shirt.
You've denied being fickle, then described how fickle you are dumb ****.

**** off onto the gooner board, you are a gooner.