Off Topic The Politics Thread

[finglasqpr]

I'd say the conclusion is that a negotiated deal is not possible, and WTO is the legal default position

You're like Boris. You've changed your position again.

Earlier you said the EU would cave in and agree to a deal. Now you are saying it will be a no deal. Make your mind up.

 

[Turkish" Premier" Hoops]

Hahaha. And electronic devices will replace hard borders.[/Q
News flash they already have !!!

 

[Goldhawk-Road]

You're like Boris. You've changed your position again.

Earlier you said the EU would cave in and agree to a deal. Now you are saying it will be a no deal. Make your mind up.

I've set out the UK position. The EU has to consider it and whether to seek a compromise (and it will imo)

As to the Boris comparison, I can assure you my shirt doesn't hang out (often)

 

[finglasqpr]

I've set out the UK position. The EU has to consider it and whether to seek a compromise (and it will imo)

As to the Boris comparison, I can assure you my shirt doesn't hang out (often)

So, "a negotiated deal is not possible" means, a negotiated deal is possible? Funny use of English.

 

[Goldhawk-Road]

So, "a negotiated deal is not possible" means, a negotiated deal is possible? Funny use of English.

Negotiated deal is not possible on terms of the draft agreed between May and the EU which was always subject to UK parliamentary approval.

 

[rangercol]

So, a no deal will affect Germany and Ireland so badly that the EU will crack and give Boris what he wants? I would advise you to ignore the Daily Mail and Telegraph propaganda machine. What about the UK? How will a no deal affect the UK? According to the Bank of England, your economy is already on the verge of entering recession. Listen Goldy, face facts. The UK are the desperados in all of this. Your country is facing the cliff edge, not the rest of Europe. If you think trump will be your saviour, think again. He will only do deals to the benefit of the U.S. and the detriment of everybody else. Remember, democrats in the U.S. senate have said they will block any Trump US/UK trade deal if peace in Ireland is affected in any way due to a no deal.

Wake up and smell the coffee Goldy before it's too late.

Fingy. Would you be so kind as to show a link to the Bank of England saying our economy is on the verge of recession?
Many thanks.
As Goldie says, even the EU loving BBC are saying that Ireland will be devestated by no deal.
Germany is nearer to that imo.

I think the EU will blink, but the EU loving ****s in parliament and liberal dinner party set in London will find a way to never let us leave.

 

[DT’s Socks]

Fingy. Would you be so kind as to show a link to the Bank of England saying our economy is on the verge of recession?
Many thanks.
As Goldie says, even the EU loving BBC are saying that Ireland will be devestated by no deal.
Germany is nearer to that imo.

I think the EU will blink, but the EU loving ****s in parliament and liberal dinner party set in London will find a way to never let us leave.

It’s all cheese and wine with you Col
Of course we are leaving EU is ready to get rid of us so they rebuild
You may run out of sob stories time this is over
It’s a cultural and mental thing something sadly the English lost decades ago IMO

It’s exactly the mess left afterwards that people are still not seeing and will nothing but a few crazy dreams we have no plans post Brexit

France is ready absolutely certain why because I live there Exciting for Europe now

 

[bobmid]

Fingy. Would you be so kind as to show a link to the Bank of England saying our economy is on the verge of recession?
Many thanks.
As Goldie says, even the EU loving BBC are saying that Ireland will be devestated by no deal.
Germany is nearer to that imo.

I think the EU will blink, but the EU loving ****s in parliament and liberal dinner party set in London will find a way to never let us leave.

I'm not so sure they can all be classed as EU loving ****s Col. Some (I believe many) think it will be detrimental to our country, hence their stance. That could quite easily be interpreted as being patriotic in essence.

 

[Stroller]

I'm not so sure they can all be classed as EU loving ****s Col. Some (I believe many) think it will be detrimental to our country, hence their stance. That could quite easily be interpreted as being patriotic in essence.

Exactly. I was about to post something similar, but thought I'd be wasting my time. Those MPs who are determined to stop a no deal Brexit will be doing so out of a duty to prevent national harm. They should be regarded as heroes in my opinion, particularly any Tories who would be prepared to bring down their own government.

 

[rangercol]

It’s all cheese and wine with you Col
Of course we are leaving EU is ready to get rid of us so they rebuild
You may run out of sob stories time this is over
It’s a cultural and mental thing something sadly the English lost decades ago IMO

It’s exactly the mess left afterwards that people are still not seeing and will nothing but a few crazy dreams we have no plans post Brexit

France is ready absolutely certain why because I live there Exciting for Europe now

Completely non-sensical post.
I didn't mention your beloved France.
No sob stories here.

 

[rangercol]

I'm not so sure they can all be classed as EU loving ****s Col. Some (I believe many) think it will be detrimental to our country, hence their stance. That could quite easily be interpreted as being patriotic in essence.

Exactly. I was about to post something similar, but thought I'd be wasting my time. Those MPs who are determined to stop a no deal Brexit will be doing so out of a duty to prevent national harm. They should be regarded as heroes in my opinion, particularly any Tories who would be prepared to bring down their own government.

Good grief!!

 

[Stroller]

Good grief!!

It's all about democracy, Col. Nobody voted for No Deal.

 

[bobmid]

Good grief!!

As opposed to just grief

 

[bobmid]

Exactly. I was about to post something similar, but thought I'd be wasting my time. Those MPs who are determined to stop a no deal Brexit will be doing so out of a duty to prevent national harm. They should be regarded as heroes in my opinion, particularly any Tories who would be prepared to bring down their own government.

I wouldnt personally class them as heroes but more just doing what they believe is right for the good of the country and those that reside in it. One thing DT is totally correct on is the non plan of a no deal withdrawal. If this was forthcoming then we could see with open eyes what our unelected prime minister intends to do. That might help relieve some doubt in peoples minds. Take just in time deliveries for example as one. How is a no deal going to effect it and what plan have we to help ease any problems.

 

[kiwiqpr]

It's all about democracy, Col. Nobody voted for No Deal.

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admitedly there was no plan on what would happen in the event of a leave vote because the voters wouldnt be stupid enough to vote no
everything was going to carry on as before
but also with an eu army
an eu income tax etc that the remainers knew nothing about

I wouldnt personally class them as heroes but more just doing what they believe is right for the good of the country and those that reside in it. One thing DT is totally correct on is the non plan of a no deal withdrawal. If this was forthcoming then we could see with open eyes what our unelected prime minister intends to do. That might help relieve some doubt in peoples minds. Take just in time deliveries for example as one. How is a no deal going to effect it and what plan have we to help ease any problems.

you vote for your local mp
unless the election rules have gone all american on us since i left

 

[kiwiqpr]

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[YorkshireHoopster]

Well, you've set out the Remain argument succinctly, Fing, and I've just heard Anna Soubry on TV saying the same thing, and I don't envy you that company.

And yes, I've heard the democrat threat like I heard Obama telling us we'd be at the end of the queue. I doubt it would be an issue if the UK gives an undertaking NOT to put a hard border in Ireland.

We haven't got long to wait. Whatever you think of Boris, I don't think he'll fold because he can't afford to. He'd bleed votes to the Brexit Party like a fountain. But on the Germany argument, there are elected politicians looking at this, and their prospects if Germany goes into recession. Personally, I think that it will tell. But not yet. October 31 falls on a Thursday. Expect feverish negotiations and attempts to compromise the previous Saturday. That's my best prediction.

Perhaps we'll finally sign Jermain Defoe on a loan deal then as well.

 

[kiwiqpr]

Perhaps we'll finally sign Jermain Defoe on a loan deal then as well.

does he still play

 

[finglasqpr]

Fingy. Would you be so kind as to show a link to the Bank of England saying our economy is on the verge of recession?
Many thanks.
As Goldie says, even the EU loving BBC are saying that Ireland will be devestated by no deal.
Germany is nearer to that imo.

I think the EU will blink, but the EU loving ****s in parliament and liberal dinner party set in London will find a way to never let us leave.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/9503...unge-by-biggest-quarterly-fall-in-nine-years/

https://www.scotsman.com/news/polit...-one-in-three-bank-of-England-warns-1-4975529

 

[QPRoma]

I'd say the conclusion is that a negotiated deal is not possible, and WTO is the legal default position

Haha. WTO terms. Do you have any idea whar ir means ?