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WILL GRIGG

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  1. Dorset

    Dorset Well-Known Member

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    I agree. Sunderland fans never take kindly to a lack of effort and passion and Grigg is not displaying either, so can't complain if he starts getting 'advice' from the stands. <whistle>
     
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  2. Nacho

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    I thought he put a decent shift in against Oxford, he was chasing people down like he meant it. Maybe as the game went on his head dropped but at the start especially he looked keen.
     
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  3. marcusblackcat

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    Absolutely agree. Watched McNulty on Saturday and he’s not our player but still put the effort in. Start to finish looked like he wanted to be here. Grigg didn’t. That scares me
     
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  4. Nacho

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    Just read that Grigg is objectively the best ever goalscorer at league one level, which probably offers a clue as to why we signed him.
     
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    You got the link to that mate?
     
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  6. Nacho

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  8. Nacho

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    No worries, it does go to show that at 28 and in his prime the vast majority of the issue with him not scoring isn't him being **** but that we aren't getting the ball to him where he needs it. Likely he's in a bit of a bad patch too form wise but a couple of goals and the crowd cheering him on would change that like any striker.
     
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  9. marcusblackcat

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    Massive part of it I think - form and confidence and something our fans seemingly don't take into account. Amazing what a difference being backed makes to everyone (even in my singing - if we have a **** crowd we don't play as well as we do with a crowd which backs us from song 1!)

    The other thing you hear is the "He's earning £x thousand a week" etc! So what? Does that stop him from having feelings/being human etc. Get behind the team and the team will do better. End of story IMO
     
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    That’s what I was saying at the match on Saturday, can’t really knock him to much as he literally never had a sniff and was the same against Heereveen tbh.
     
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    Its a forwards job to get into positions where he can score and he is not doing it. This bad patch you refer to started on his arrival and shows no signs of ending. Its all right blaming everybody else, but its him who has to adapt surely. If, as it looks, he cant, then we must move on, ship him out on loan maybe, and see how he does elsewhere, as JR does not seem to have a clue on how to get the best out of him, that way we may re-coup some of our outlay. Time is not on our side now and we have wasted too much already on him imo., and the way its going I can see us having to pay another one to leave.
     
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  12. Nacho

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    In fairness to him he's been injured for 90% of the time he's been with us. Give him a fair go injury free for more than one game and if it's still not working then he can join the long list of players who play well for every team other than us.
     
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  13. Jack TheLad

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    You've contradicted yourself a little bit there. You're saying it's his job to get into positions but then you're saying Ross can't get the best out of him.

    I think it's a bit of a combination. Ross' style clearly doesn't work to his strengths. How many clear cut chances have you seen him miss? I don't think it's that many because we create absolutely nothing.

    Getting rid of him just won't work economically I wouldn't imagine. No one would pay a similar fee and who would take him on loan where his wages are covered and we get a fee? No one.

    We need to play to his strengths and we simply don't do it.
     
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  14. marcusblackcat

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    He's not on "massive" money - big by L1 standards but not incomprehensible. And his fee sits at less than £1m from what I've heard so getting that back shouldn't be a massive issue. The £4m everyone spouts on about is, as Donald says, only if we make it to the PL with him in the side. Which we won't so he'll never cost us £4m - I reckon we'll be here or Championship for the next 4-5 seasons at least sadly. Just how far we have fallen
     
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    There you go - all goals scored inside the box, lots of penalties and tap ins. I counted 3 headers.
    All we need to do is cross it low into the box - easy.
     
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    You’d like to think our gaffer would have looked at the kind of player he was buying and setup to suit wouldn’t you? Goals win games, not sideways passes in midfield...
     
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    I’ll have you know that our midfield passed the ball forwards at least twice on Saturday
     
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  18. Nacho

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    You'd like to think that out of Embleton, Maguire, Watmore and McGeady we'd have a couple of players capable of putting in low passes into dangerous areas. We put loads of crosses in against Oxford but barely any good ones, it can only get better in terms of accuracy.

    Running to the line and cutting in low crosses is pretty much Watmore's bread and butter so let's hope him and Grigg are on the same wavelength.
     
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    All goals inside the box. He's a poacher, simple as that. Think Darren Bent but without the pace.

    It's fairly simple to me that we don't play yo his strengths at all. He's not going to run onto anything because he doesn't have loads of pace. Not a target man.

    Loads of pens scored but I'd bet he won most of them.

    Also notice that he barely celebrates a lot of those goals so people reading into his body language, maybe he's just a bit like that?
     
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  20. Nads

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    Was that them 2 throw ins we had? <laugh>
     
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